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Posted by chhum 10/27/2025

Amazon strategised about keeping water use secret(www.source-material.org)
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balozi 10/27/2025|
Concerns about inconsequential water usage at datacenters is a far more welcome problem for the the industry than the other real issues they could be dealing with. People distracted by water concerns will not notice the very real energy usage and AI ethics/practices issues.

Say what you want but the industry has figured out how to manage public perception and sentiment. Water usage problem is easy to fix, while energy usage is a far tougher nut to crack.

exasperaited 10/27/2025||
The company that literally named itself after a river and the threatened habitat it runs through.
Reason077 10/27/2025||
What happens to water that a data center “uses”? Is it warmed up and returned to the environment? Contaminated and sent to wastewater? Evaporated into the air?
Zababa 10/27/2025||
> Amazon’s data centres were projected to use 7.7 billion gallons of water a year by 2030, according to the leaked strategy memo, which was circulated within the company in 2022.

From https://www.usgs.gov/water-science-school/science/total-wate...:

> Water use in the United States in 2015 was estimated to be about 322 billion gallons per day (Bgal/d), which was 9 percent less than in 2010.

It doesn't seem to be very much water at all.

DoneWithAllThat 10/27/2025||
The level of obsession some people have over data center water usage is completely unhinged.
charles_f 10/27/2025||
> a commitment to “return more water than it uses by 2030”.

How would that even be possible?

bryan_w 10/27/2025|
Some are adding/funding water treatment plants tre reduce the load from the city water main
julianozen 10/27/2025||
Dumb question, but is this done with fresh water?

If so, why?

If not, does it matter how much water is used?

hwillis 10/27/2025|
Its freshwater and has to be freshwater because it goes through pipes and/or is evaporated. Corrosion, scaling and fouling are all issues.

Even if seawater was easy to use and datacenters were near the shore, it would produce very saline brine which would be difficult to safely get rid of.

julianozen 10/28/2025||
Thanks!
krunger 10/27/2025||
Sensing this is the new global warming threat replacement
ChrisArchitect 10/27/2025||
[dupe] Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45710025
1vuio0pswjnm7 10/27/2025|
""It would be better if they could own up to it," said a current Amazon software developer, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation. "Even if they said it was a low priority, at least that would be honest.""

HN commentary on water use by so-called "tech" companies usually includes a number of mindlessly-parroted, bad faith "arguments"

One of these is to try to compare the new (additive) water use by non-essential data centers with existing (non-additive) water use by agriculture

Putting aside that (a) data centers are non-essential and not comparable to food, water or shelter and (b) agricultural use is not new, these "arguments" are also ignoring that (c) the so-called "tech" companies are trying to hide the data

Employees of these so-called "tech" companies might be experiencing guilt over this dishonest tactic, but not enough to make them quit

When their employer hides the data this makes accurate comparisons, e.g., to existing water use by other recipients, difficult if not impossible

Does agriculture also try to hide its water use

If it did, then HN comments could not attempt bad faith comparisons

Because there would be no data to cite

ajkjk 10/27/2025||
no opinion on the rest of the point, but, why do you keep writing "so-called" in front of tech companies? They are called that because they are tech companies; the word's meaning is widely agreed upon.
1vuio0pswjnm7 10/29/2025||
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