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Posted by edwinjm 2 days ago

Microsoft in court for allegedly misleading Australians over 365 subscriptions(www.accc.gov.au)
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nashashmi 2 days ago|
You can still do the same now. Go to cancellation and be offered a package without AI.
Liquix 2 days ago|
or cancel your subscription. you would not continue to patronize a restaurant that intentionally put an extra charge on your bill to make themselves more money. why continue to pay M$ after they deliberately tried to trick you to squeeze out more profit?
stevesimmons 2 days ago||
I am in the UK.

I got Microsoft's emails, did not want Microsoft's forced imposition of Copilot in my Office subscription (regardless of price), found the classic option mentioned in online forums, and managed to switch to it just before my renewal.

My 89 year old aunt on the other hand got stung for the unwanted forced upgrade. I had to call Microsoft, complained about them unfairly exploiting vulnerable customers, and eventually got a downgrade and the difference refunded.

What really annoys me about this - quite apart from the initial deception/misrepresentation - is I now expect Microsoft to pull similar tricks in future. A real disincentive to sign up to any other 'value-added' services.

Why make subscriptions so full of traps that consumers end up hating you? (Yes, I know, so some GM can hit this quarter's bonus)

That reminds me, having just cancelled Spotify (due to their price rise), Disney+ is next on the list. Maybe Netflix too.

toomuchtodo 1 day ago||
https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/accc-v-microsoft-concis...
Qem 2 days ago||
> "Following a detailed investigation, the ACCC alleges that Microsoft deliberately hit this third option, to retain the old plan at the old price, in order to increase the uptake of Copilot and the increased revenue from the Copilot integrated plans," ACCC chair Gina Cass-Gottlieb said.

The product is so good that they need to scam people into buying it.

jbombadil 2 days ago||
Looks like Microsoft is taking a page out of the cable companies' playbook. Next up, there will be "discounted" Copilot 365 or whatever: a 2 year contract with the "promotional price" locked in and a penalty fee for cancelling early.
loeg 2 days ago||
Semi tangential, but I'm amazed there isn't more uproar over what Microsoft is doing with Windows 10 <-> 11 and devices that don't have hardware TPM. Just completely fucking their user base, to what end? A one-time bump in sales for hardware partners?
netsharc 1 day ago||
Not to mention the ecological destruction. Perfectly good computers, but support for the OS people are used to is now over..

Microsoft used to have the motto "Where do you want to go today?". Seems like Copilot has decided we should all go to hell.

mythrwy 2 days ago||
They have been screwing over their user base for a long time though incrementally.
loeg 2 days ago||
Things were pretty good for like a decade, from Windows 7 through most of 10!
Krssst 1 day ago||
10 was the beginning of forced updates, forced telemetry and disregard for user consent. 10 is the boundary. For me it's the beginning of when consent started being ignored by default everywhere. Microsoft sets the example, and the example is that the user choices do not matter at all.

Well, software do ask for consent sometime. But asking again every once in a while until the user misclicks is not that.

misswaterfairy 2 days ago||
Awesome that the ACCC, Australia's consumer watchdog, is taking this up.

It's really shitty that companies believe they can pull these stunts and get away with it.

lysp 2 days ago||
The ACCC is actually quite switched on to any misleading conduct.

They have gone after Airbnb / Airlines / Hotel Booking / Concert Tickets - for misleading conduct.

Especially business that use drip pricing (adding compulsory hidden fees later) or misleading prices like in the Microsoft case.

Anything sneaky - they're normally right on to it.

yen223 2 days ago||
I recently learned this, but the reason Steam offers 2-hour no-questions-asked full refunds was partially because of a lawsuit by the ACCC
wiredpancake 1 day ago||
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nobodyandproud 1 day ago||
I cancelled my subscription once they snuck in copilot and jacked up the subscription fee.

I refuse to play their opt out game.

mallets 2 days ago||
Have the family plan prepaid for 2 years, mostly for the 1TB OneDrive. The new plans are almost double the cost here, hope this AI bundling dies a painful death by then. Though that doesn't guarantee price cuts I guess.
mikebonnell 2 days ago|
Pretty sure Microsoft is going to try and get a settlement. The evidence is very clear.
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