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Posted by meetpateltech 1 day ago

Claude for Excel(www.claude.com)
662 points | 446 commentspage 2
NumberCruncher 1 day ago|
On the first glance this seems to be a very bad idea. But re-readig this:

> Get answers about any cell in seconds: Navigate complex models instantly. Ask Claude about specific formulas, entire worksheets, or calculation flows across tabs. Every explanation includes cell-level citations so you can verify the logic.

this might just be an excellent tool for refactoring Excel sheets into something more robust and maintainable. And making a bunch of suits redundant.

alex43578 1 day ago||
On a related note, has anyone found a good local LLM option for working with Excel files?

Here's my use case: I have a set of responses from a survey and want to perform sentiment analysis on them, classify them, etc. Ideally, I'd like to feed them one at a time to a local LLM with a prompt like: "Classify this survey response as positive, negative, or off-topic...etc".

If I dump the whole spreadsheet into ChatGPT, I found that because of the context window, it can get "lazy"; while with a local LLM, I could just literally prompt it one row at a time to accomplish my goal, even if it takes a little longer in terms of GPU and wall-clock time.

However, I can't find anything that works off the shelf like this. It seems like a prime use case for local models.

sexy_seedbox 1 day ago||
Cellm + Ollamma?

https://docs.getcellm.com/models/local-models

alex43578 19 hours ago||
That looks like a great fit! Not sure how I missed it, but I appreciate the link.
santadays 1 day ago||
Don't know about excel, but for Google Sheets. You can ask chatgpt to write you a appsscript custom function e.g CALL_OPENAI. Then you can pass in variables into. =CALL_OPEN("Classify this survey response as positive, negative, or off-topic: "&A1)
thisguy47 1 day ago||
Sheets also has an `AI` formula now that you can use to invoke Gemini models directly.
santadays 1 day ago||
When I tried the Gemini/AI formula it didn’t work very well, gpt-5 mini or nano are cheap and generally do what you want if you are asking something straightforward about a piece of content you give them. You can also give a json schema to make the results more deterministic.
flowingfocus 1 day ago||
Version control and meaningful diffs for .xlsx will be in high demand in a few months
andyferris 1 day ago|
Honestly those things are well past due - if this tips the scales then I hope we can all benefit.
StarterPro 1 day ago||
HA!

I've worked at MULTIPLE million dollar firms whose entire business relies on 10 Excel workbooks that were created 30 years ago by a person who is either passed on or retired.

Give users who aren't intimately knowledgeable with their source material ai, and you're asking for trouble.

The undo function has a history limit.

The real issue is: at what point are we going to stop chasing efficiency and profit at the sake of humanity?

Claude and OpenAI are built on stretched truths, stolen creativity and what-if statements.

theshrike79 20 hours ago||
The best thing that can come from this is unit tests for Excel.

LLMs work best when they can call tools (edit the sheet) and test their results in a loop.

It's like the "value seek" thing Excel has had since forever; "adjust these values until this cell is X"

Excel doesn't have any way to verify that every formula in that 60k line sheet is correct and someone hasn't accidentally replaced one with a static number for example.

filearts 19 hours ago|
In a previous professional life, I did financial modelling for a big 4 accounting firm. We had tooling that allowed us to visualize contiguous ranges of identical formulas (if you convert formulas to R1C1 addressing, similar formulas have the same representation). This allowed for overrides to stick out like a sore thumb.

I suspect similar tools could be made for Claude and other LLMs except that it wouldn't be plagued by the mind-numbing tedium of doing this sort of audit.

michaelmarkell 1 day ago||
IMO, a real solution here has to be hybrid, not full LLM, because these sheets can be massive and have very complicated structures. You want to be able to use the LLM to identify / map column headers, while using non-LLM tool calling to run Excel operations like SUMIFs or VLOOKUPs. One of the most important traits in these systems is consistency with slight variation in file layout, as so much Excel work involves consolidating / reconciling between reports made on a quarterly basis or produced by a variety of sources, with different reporting structures.

Disclosure: My company builds ingestion pipelines for large multi-tab Excel files, PDFs, and CSVs.

dcre 1 day ago||
That's exactly what they're doing.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/advancing-claude-for-financia...

levocardia 1 day ago||
"This won't work because (something obvious that engineers at Anthropic clearly thought of already)"
michaelmarkell 1 day ago||
Not really. Take for example:

item, date, price

abc, 01/01/2023, $30

cde, 02/01/2023, $40

... 100k rows ...

subtotal. $1000

def, 03/01,2023, $20

"Hey Claude, what's the total from this file? > grep for headers > "Ah, I see column 3 is the price value" > SUM(C2:C) -> $2020 > "Great! I found your total!"

If you can find me an example of tech that can solve this at scale on large, diverse Excel formats, then I'll concede, but I haven't found something actually trustworthy for important data sets

stevenhuang 1 day ago||
That's a basic tool call that current models already can do well. All the sql query generation LLMs can do this for example.
sunnybeetroot 1 day ago||
So more or less like what AI has been doing for the last couple of years when it comes to writing code?
xouse 1 day ago||
I’m decent at excel, but not amazing. I’ve tried again and again to use LLMs including Claude to solve specific, small, well defined problems in excel with a 0% success rate. My experience so far has been if I can’t do it LLMs can’t either.

If LLMs are a 6/10 right now at basic coding then they’re a 3/10 at excel from my experience.

NotMichaelBay 17 hours ago|
What kinds of problems in Excel are you trying to solve? Just curious as I'm also building an AI Excel addin, as a side project. :)
warthog 1 day ago||
Tough day to be an AI Excel add-in startup
mitjam 1 day ago||
Ask Rosie is actually shutting down right now: https://www.askrosie.ai/

I would love to learn more about their challenges as I have been working on an Excel AI add-in for quite some time and have followed Ask Rosie from almost their start.

That they now gone through the whole cycle worries me I‘m too slow as a solo building on the side in these fast paced times.

8note 1 day ago|||
its a great time for your ai excel add-in to start getting acquired by a claude competitor though
NotMichaelBay 1 day ago||
Not OpenAI, though, because they already gave $14M to an AI Excel add-in startup (Endex)
jonathanstrange 1 day ago||
That seems to be true for any startup that offers a wrapper to existing AIs rather than an AI on their own. The lucky ones might be bought but many if not most of them will perish trying to compete with companies that actually create AI models and companies large enough to integrate their own wrappers.
warthog 1 day ago||
Actually just wrote about this: https://aimode.substack.com/p/openai-is-below-above-and-arou...

not sure if it binary like that but as startups we will probably collect the scraps leftover indeed instead

scrappyjoe 1 day ago||
Maybe this is how we get code versioning for Excel.

Git LFS for workbook + the following prompt :

“Create a commit explains what has changed in the workbook since the last commit. Be brief, but explain the change in business terms as well as code change terms.”

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