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Posted by meetpateltech 3 days ago

Claude for Excel(www.claude.com)
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strange_quark 3 days ago||
Yet more evidence of the bubble burst being imminent. If any of these companies really had some almost-AGI system internally, they wouldn’t be spending any effort making f’ing Excel plugins. Or at the very least, they’d be writing their own Excel because AI is so amazing at coding, right?
HDThoreaun 3 days ago||
The current valuations do not require AGI. They require products like this that will replace scores of people doing computer based grunt work. MSFT is worth $4 trillion off the back of enterprise productivity software, the AI labs just need some of that money.
ipaddr 3 days ago|||
You make a great point. Where is all of the complex applications? They haven't been able to create than own office suite or word processor or really anything aside from a halloween matching game in js. You would think we would have some complex application they can point to but nothing.
mitjam 3 days ago|||
Excel is living business knowlege stuck in private SharePoint Sites, tappimg into it might kick off a nice data flywheel not to speak of the nice TAM.
qsort 3 days ago|||
You wouldn't believe the amount of shit that runs on Excel.
powvans 3 days ago|||
Yes. I once interviewed a developer who’s previous job was maintaining the .NET application that used an Excel sheet as the brain for decisions about where to drill for oil on the sea floor. No one understood what was in the Excel sheet. It was built by a geologist who was long gone. The engineering team understood the inputs and outputs. That’s all they needed to know.
mwigdahl 3 days ago||
Years ago when I worked for an engineering consulting company we had to work with a similarly complex, opaque Excel spreadsheet from General Electric modeling the operation of a nuclear power plant in exacting detail.

Same deal there -- the original author was a genius and was the only person who knew how it was set up or how it worked.

strange_quark 3 days ago||||
I think you’re misunderstanding me. This might be something somewhat useful, I don’t know, and I’m not judging it based on that.

What I’m saying is that if you really believed we were 2, maybe 3 years tops from AGI or the singularity or whatever you would spend 0 effort serving what already seems to be a domain that is already served by 3rd parties that are already using your models! An excel wrapper for an LLM isn’t exactly cutting edge AI research.

They’re desperate to find something that someone will pay a meaningful amount of money for that even remotely justifies their valuation and continued investment.

cube00 3 days ago||||
I spotted a custom dialog in an Excel spreadsheet in a medical context the other day, I was horrified.
dickersnoodle 3 days ago||||
Sic
efields 3 days ago|||
This. I work in Pharma. Excel and faxes.
pton_xd 3 days ago|||
The fine tuning will continue until we reach AGI.
amlib 3 days ago||
The fine tuning will continue until we reach the torment nexus, at best
FergusArgyll 3 days ago||
A program that can do excel for you is almost AGI
mainecoder 3 days ago||
Yeah now tell the Auditors that the financial spreadsheet we have here has AI touching it left and right. "I did not cook the books I promise it is the AI that made our financials seem better than they actually are trust me bro!", said Joe from Accounting.
grim_io 3 days ago||
If this works very well and reliable, it might not kill programming as such, but it might put a lot of small businesses who do custom software for other small businesses out of work.

The HN bubble might not realize the implications.

racl101 3 days ago||
This could be huge! Very exciting!
surume 3 days ago||
Checkmate, Altman
ada1981 3 days ago||
Can we get it in Sheets?
frankacter 3 days ago|
for sheets, Gemini exists already natively.

Alternatively, Perplexity Comet browser (or OpenAI Atlas) would presumably provide sidebar functionality to act within your spreadsheets.

sherinjosephroy 3 days ago||
Pretty cool idea — AI inside spreadsheets makes sense since most of our work already lives there. But I’m a bit cautious too — spreadsheets are messy enough, and adding probabilistic AI could make mistakes harder to spot. Useful if done right, risky if not.
tanksterzen 3 days ago||
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Aboutplants 3 days ago||
I’ve got some bad news about the prospects of your startup
thesuitonym 3 days ago|||
Learn > Documentation is just a single markdown doc?
MarcelOlsz 3 days ago||
Fresh account spam on my HN? Buy an ad somewhere.

Aaaaand it's gone!

cube00 3 days ago|
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dang 3 days ago||
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

sdsd 3 days ago|||
Okay. But then you could say the same for a human, isn't your brain just a cloud of matter and electricity that just reacts to senses deterministically?
cube00 3 days ago|||
> isn't your brain just a cloud of matter and electricity that just reacts to senses deterministically?

LLMs are not deterministic.

I'd argue over the short term humans are more deterministic. I ask a human the same question multiple times and I get the same answer. I ask an LLM and each answer could be very different depending on its "temperature".

krzyk 3 days ago||
If you ask human the same question repeatedly, you'll get different answers. I think that at third you'll get "I already answered that" etc.
worldsayshi 3 days ago||||
We hardly react to things deterministically.

But I agree with the sentiment. It seems it is more important than ever to agree on what it means to understand something.

qwertox 3 days ago|||
I'm having a bad day today. I'm 100% certain that today I'll react completely different to any tiny issue compared to how I did yesterday.
sdsd 2 days ago||
Right, if you change the input to your function, you get a different output. By that logic, the function `(def (add a b) (+ a b)` isn't deterministic.
NDizzle 3 days ago|||
I mean - try clicking the CoPilot button and see what it can actually do. Last I checked, it told me it couldn't change any of the actual data itself, but it could give you suggestions. Low bar for excellence here.
baal80spam 3 days ago||
OK then. Groks?