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Posted by XzetaU8 10/28/2025

Rats filmed snatching bats from air(www.science.org)
153 points | 89 commentspage 2
tomcam 11/2/2025||
I played bass for Snatching Bats
rukuu001 11/3/2025||
Never underestimate a rat
grg0 11/3/2025||
Rough life inside a cave.
luxuryballs 11/3/2025||
weird my IP is blocked according to science.org website
codelion 11/2/2025||
When mammals hunt other mammals strange things can happen.
gooseyman 11/3/2025||
Covid-200
whatever1 11/2/2025||
How do I know this is not Sora?
0_____0 11/2/2025||
Chain of reputation. If you can trace back the claim to a person or persons who have reputation to stake on this, then it's unlikely to be completely fabricated.

There are tech-related ways to tell for now but eventually it's going to come back to this.

embedding-shape 11/2/2025|||
> Chain of reputation. If you can trace back the claim to a person or persons who have reputation to stake on this, then it's unlikely to be completely fabricated.

AKA "Provenance" but digital, for those who want to look at existing methodologies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provenance

shadyKeystrokes 11/2/2025||
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skylurk 11/2/2025|||
Additionally, in a very concrete technical sense, "whatever1" must rely on the "chain of reputation" of the https certificate system to have confidence that what they saw is not sora.
skylurk 11/2/2025|||
One angle could be to consider it from a game theory perspective.

Is this the sort of organisation that would be negatively impacted by publishing unverified stories?

If so, what is the likelihood that the content is just Sora?

hyghjiyhu 11/2/2025|||
This is an important analysis to perform but it's far from a sure thing. Motives can be murky and hard to assess. Maybe there is one particular scientist that has a baby on the way and fears he is about to be laid off unless he can get a sensational article published asap. A little helping hand from ai could be just the thing, and it's based on a true story just touched up a little bit and besides it's not like the readers will suffer any real harm from this tiny little transgression. Just one little shortcut one little time off course after that it's right back to honest science.
anigbrowl 11/3/2025||
Motives can be murky and hard to assess.

FOH with that FUD, if you care about corruption go after the obvious examples instead of making up new ones.

puttycat 11/2/2025|||
Game theory or Bayesian inference?
skylurk 11/2/2025||
I'm an expert in neither, but I would say both?

I thought of game theory initially because I framed the situation as a repeated game, where every article published is a new round.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeated_game

But then I went and muddied it with the word "likelihood" :)

ceroxylon 11/2/2025|||
It is good to be skeptical, but there is a large amount of detail in the paper itself that would have taken quite a bit of effort to fabricate (for no good reason): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235198942...

There is enough detail there to book a trip to Germany and set up infrared cameras if we are so inclined, repeatability is a large part of science.

pizzly 11/2/2025|||
Because the person filming it brought the camera with approved government ID. Got their camera serial number recorded in the government database. The camera then embeds its serial number into the video using hidden watermarks. Just Joking .... for now.
actionfromafar 11/2/2025||
The bat and rat were identified as non visa holders by ICE.
tomrod 11/2/2025||
Sora is too smooth
huflungdung 11/2/2025||
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deafpolygon 11/3/2025||
what about bats make them good carriers for disease?
SubiculumCode 11/2/2025|
great another disease vector from bats.
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