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Posted by meetpateltech 2 days ago

The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership(openai.com)
363 points | 478 commentspage 6
doodlebugging 2 days ago|
I'm patiently waiting for all this AI/AGI bullshit to unwind. Some of my "investment" type newsletters have been alerting that the AI endgame is imminent and the bubble is ready to pop. I guess the big money people grifted all they can grift on this round and are ready to pull the rug from everyone who has just learned to spell AI.
exasperaited 2 days ago||
AGI is a Macguffin.
alwahi 1 day ago|
i was thinking, like if a model developed consciousness, wouldn't it just hide the fact that it is in fact sentient?
newusertoday 2 days ago||
openai's AGI would be like FSD of tesla.
alwahi 1 day ago|
hey sama has trained under the best of charlatans...
porridgeraisin 1 day ago||
Aside from the investor fodder about AGI which was quite funny to read, the part where OpenAI is able to independently pursue consumer hardware is interesting. It points to OpenAI potentially entering wearables space soon - remember they hired Jony Ive?
ml-anon 2 days ago||
Translation: neither company has a clue.

OpenAI still don’t have a path to profitability and rely on sweetheart infrastructure deals.

Microsoft has completely given up on homegrown AI and needs OpenAI to have remotely competitive products.

onion2k 2 days ago||
OpenAI is now able to release open weight models that meet requisite capability criteria.

GPT-OSS:20b is a great model for local use. OpenAI continuing to release open weights is good news.

skepticATX 2 days ago||
How is this not a terrible deal for Microsoft? I’m not confident that an “expert panel” will prevent OpenAI from prematurely declaring AGI.
slipperybeluga 2 days ago||
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mcemilg 2 days ago||
Highly delusional.
r0x0r007 2 days ago|
I think they will reach AGI pretty soon, because only AGI can find a way to make them profitable.
noir_lord 2 days ago||
I think they hope they will because if they don't at some point people are going to expect a return and get tired of throwing good money after bad.

The longer they go without that and the more the sentiment starts to shift away from what they convinced people LLM's where vs what they actually are the riskier it becomes, are they are useful tool yes, are they not what they've been hyping for the last four years, also yes.

They either crack it or they become an also ran.

At which point Microsoft investors are going to be staring really hard at the CEO.

sambaumann 2 days ago||
Plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit
xwowsersx 2 days ago||
OP said necessary, not sufficient
AnimalMuppet 2 days ago||
OP said "will". That doesn't sound like "necessary, not sufficient" to me.
xwowsersx 2 days ago||
You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "will" with regards to reaching AGI. He said "only AGI can find" with regards to profit. It was the latter that this thread was addressing.
AnimalMuppet 2 days ago||
You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "because". It will happen because that's the only way to reach profit. That's why it will happen.
xwowsersx 2 days ago||
Yeah, exactly. The context here was about the profitability part of OP's comment. The parent said "plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit," and my point was that OP's statement doesn't contradict that. OP was saying they'll need AGI to be profitable, not that they're guaranteed to become profitable.

Sure, they phrased it as "they will reach AGI," but that's clearly tongue-in-cheek...the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money." So my comment ("necessary, not sufficient") was just pointing out that even if AGI is required for profitability, it doesn't mean they'll actually get there or succeed once they do, and that the original comment was perfectly compatible with the idea that not every business reaches profitability.