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Posted by meetpateltech 10/28/2025

The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership(openai.com)
366 points | 480 commentspage 6
doodlebugging 10/28/2025|
I'm patiently waiting for all this AI/AGI bullshit to unwind. Some of my "investment" type newsletters have been alerting that the AI endgame is imminent and the bubble is ready to pop. I guess the big money people grifted all they can grift on this round and are ready to pull the rug from everyone who has just learned to spell AI.
exasperaited 10/28/2025||
AGI is a Macguffin.
alwahi 10/29/2025|
i was thinking, like if a model developed consciousness, wouldn't it just hide the fact that it is in fact sentient?
Escapade5160 10/29/2025||
Microsoft invests in OpenAI, OpenAI agrees to spend 250b on azure compute. These companies are just sliding money back and forth to drive up their stock price. Just pulling money away from investors while taking very little risk themselves. It's literally a bubble.
newusertoday 10/28/2025||
openai's AGI would be like FSD of tesla.
alwahi 10/29/2025|
hey sama has trained under the best of charlatans...
ml-anon 10/28/2025||
Translation: neither company has a clue.

OpenAI still don’t have a path to profitability and rely on sweetheart infrastructure deals.

Microsoft has completely given up on homegrown AI and needs OpenAI to have remotely competitive products.

onion2k 10/28/2025||
OpenAI is now able to release open weight models that meet requisite capability criteria.

GPT-OSS:20b is a great model for local use. OpenAI continuing to release open weights is good news.

skepticATX 10/28/2025||
How is this not a terrible deal for Microsoft? I’m not confident that an “expert panel” will prevent OpenAI from prematurely declaring AGI.
slipperybeluga 10/28/2025||
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mcemilg 10/28/2025||
Highly delusional.
r0x0r007 10/28/2025|
I think they will reach AGI pretty soon, because only AGI can find a way to make them profitable.
noir_lord 10/28/2025||
I think they hope they will because if they don't at some point people are going to expect a return and get tired of throwing good money after bad.

The longer they go without that and the more the sentiment starts to shift away from what they convinced people LLM's where vs what they actually are the riskier it becomes, are they are useful tool yes, are they not what they've been hyping for the last four years, also yes.

They either crack it or they become an also ran.

At which point Microsoft investors are going to be staring really hard at the CEO.

sambaumann 10/28/2025||
Plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit
xwowsersx 10/28/2025||
OP said necessary, not sufficient
AnimalMuppet 10/28/2025||
OP said "will". That doesn't sound like "necessary, not sufficient" to me.
xwowsersx 10/28/2025||
You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "will" with regards to reaching AGI. He said "only AGI can find" with regards to profit. It was the latter that this thread was addressing.
AnimalMuppet 10/28/2025||
You're missing context and/or didn't read OP's comment. He said "because". It will happen because that's the only way to reach profit. That's why it will happen.
xwowsersx 10/28/2025||
Yeah, exactly. The context here was about the profitability part of OP's comment. The parent said "plenty of businesses fail to find a way to make a profit," and my point was that OP's statement doesn't contradict that. OP was saying they'll need AGI to be profitable, not that they're guaranteed to become profitable.

Sure, they phrased it as "they will reach AGI," but that's clearly tongue-in-cheek...the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money." So my comment ("necessary, not sufficient") was just pointing out that even if AGI is required for profitability, it doesn't mean they'll actually get there or succeed once they do, and that the original comment was perfectly compatible with the idea that not every business reaches profitability.

r0x0r007 11/4/2025||
'the underlying idea is "they better reach AGI, because that's the only way they could make money."'

Yeah, that's what I was going for.