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Posted by kjhughes 10/28/2025

Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia(www.cnbc.com)
304 points | 199 commentspage 2
ngcc_hk 10/28/2025|
Given 5g patent mostly h, usa has missed the boat. Somehow has to find its way back or be dominated. Not necessarily can build an empire or even a duopoly… but at least stay in the game like Intel. Understandable from usa point of view.
baal80spam 10/28/2025||
ITT: Bubblers in full force!
ChrisArchitect 10/28/2025||
Quietly supplying telecom equipment all this time, it really isn't the Nokia most know. Crazy that Nokia is still even a thing. Who noticed that logo had even changed (two years ago in 2023).
foobarian 10/28/2025|
Honestly, I feel like this is what Nokia always was, and why they fell behind in consumer tech
bgwalter 10/28/2025||
Microsoft (Elop and Ballmer) ruined Nokia's cell phone line that led to massive layoffs.

Let's see if this investment leads to the final elimination of an EU tech company. Why does Finland permit this?

phatfish 10/28/2025||
Nokia never executed on a touch screen OS. If i remember their final attempt with a Linux based OS was considered "good", but it was too little, too late. It was already over when they were scooped up by Microsoft, who were desperate themselves.

Pretty sure Nokia was glad to offload the handset business so they could feed money into markets they were still competitive in.

pjmlp 10/28/2025|||
Yes they did, a few Symbian models used touch, as did original Maemo device that only did wlan initially.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7710

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet

ptx 10/28/2025||
All the Symbian devices used resistive touch screens, though, didn't they? E.g. the Sony Ericsson Vivaz. So the user experience was not quite the same as with capacitive touch.
ZuLuuuuuu 10/29/2025|||
No, there were quite a few Symbian models which used capacitive touch, combined with a modern Qt based Symbian OS. Check out "Symbian Belle" and the phone models released with that OS version. I loved my Nokia 603 :)

But I think they only released such models with Symbian for a couple of years, before switching to Meego and then later Windows Mobile OS.

pjmlp 10/29/2025||
They were in parallel, due to the whole Symbian vs Linux politics at Nokia between teams, both platforms got ramped down to Windows Phone 7 introduction and burning platforms memo.

The N900 was released more for a question of honour than anything.

pjmlp 10/28/2025|||
It is still touch, and yes you could use finger nails as well on those models.

However you have not read the links, not all models were alike.

> The Nokia 7710 is a mobile phone developed by Nokia and announced on 2 November 2004.[1] It was the first Nokia device with a touchscreen

Geee 10/28/2025|||
That isn't really true. The N9 was definitely ahead of it's time with a buttonless gesture based UI similar to the modern iPhone.
chollida1 10/28/2025|||
Microsoft did no such thing. Nokia is very directly responsible for its own cell phone failings.

This line of thought really needs to die.

The Nokia board hired Elop from Microsoft because they wanted to bet the company on the Microsoft phone, full stop.

If you want to assign blame, then its on Nokia for wanting to pursue that strategy.

pjmlp 10/28/2025|||
As someone that was an employee at the time, I am also fed up with the anti-Microsoft narrative.

Also there are some errors there, Windows Phone only became an alternative after the burning platform memo, that wasn't at all well received neither internally, nor by the 3rd party devs that had just started to migrate their Symbian tooling yet again, this time to Qt + PIPS + Carbide.

The biggest blame with the board, as revealed on the Finish press, was the bonus clause on Elop contract to sell Nokia Mobile business.

nsonha 10/28/2025|||
yes Nokia had years to come up with a better OS and they didn't. Even Samsung failed at this endeavor years later.
nicce 10/29/2025||
They had MeeGo (Qt/Linux). For some reason they thought that not worth it to continue. Let's take Windows!
nsonha 10/30/2025||
I've always asumed it wasn't a good enough OS just from the consumer news articles I read, was a freshman at the time. What was technically remarkable about it?
nicce 10/30/2025||
It was a direct competitor for Android at that time. GUI was really nice. I don't think it was essentially worse than Android. There was the potential.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/31z13e/is_...

http://www.eedailynews.com/2010/05/android-vs-meego-two-appr...

jampekka 10/28/2025|||
Nokia's market cap is over $40B, so $1B is not really Microsoft level coup. At least yet.
linhns 10/28/2025|||
Nokia has been teetering on the edge for a period, so they would welcome such an investment.
foobarian 10/28/2025||
Nokia has been at the edge of the abyss for a period, and then they made a giant leap forward /s
triceratops 10/28/2025|||
To be fair Nokia, like Blackberry, was effed the moment iPhone launched. Elop hastened the decline but it was coming regardless.
distances 10/28/2025|||
It wasn't iPhone that doomed Nokia, it was Android. All of the sudden all Nokia's competitors could ship fairly good touch screen phones, while previously Nokia had a virtual monopoly on advanced mobile operating systems (barring BlackBerry in the US).

Granted, it was going to happen anyway, probably through Microsoft if Google hadn't commoditized that market first.

Insanity 10/28/2025|||
It's not quite the same, BlackBerry was mostly a 'phone' company and not a 'full telecom' company, in terms of hardware the produced. Nokia has other products that are more b2b than b2c.
triceratops 10/28/2025||
Nokia has existed for over a hundred years. The success of its phones made it a major name and a ton of money in the early 2000s. Its other lines of business have continued to operate quietly. But it's no longer the force it was.
iberator 10/29/2025|||
NOKIA IS NOT PHONE COMPANY. Never have been. They produce ayt of telecom stuff. Nokia was never ruined.
bgwalter 10/29/2025||
You are probably trolling, but if you cannot read Wikipedia yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia

"In 1998 alone, the company had sales revenue of $20 billion, making $2.6 billion profit. By 2000, Nokia employed over 55,000 people and had a market share of 30% in the mobile phone market, almost twice as large as its nearest competitor, Motorola."

The mobile phone business was ruined (perhaps they should have used Android), therefore caution about new foreign influence is warranted.

iberator 10/30/2025||
You don't understand: phones were just small part of their business. They are stull tier 1 teleco stuff provider worldwide (gsm, umts, ltr, 5g, core, rrus and bbus etc.)
rhetocj23 10/28/2025||
MSFT accelerated the invetiable.

There was just no way Nokia could match Apple on the OS who spent years prior to the idea of a smartphone making it a good match for the hardware of the time. And MSFT deservedly got punished for not investing in creating a better OS and Apple deservedly rewarded for doing so.

tgma 10/28/2025||
They may never have had the chance to beat Apple but they could certainly have bet on Android instead of Windows Phone and today they probably would have been in a different place like Samsung.
randomname4325 10/28/2025||
Does this signal the a big market for AI processing is at the edge?
iszomer 10/28/2025||
That growing narrative regarding all these AI-centric companies "funding each other" is beginning to look a lot like Attrition.org's (former) sexchart..
JoeOfTexas 10/29/2025||
Finally, holding my Nokia shares pays off. I was down pretty bad since the meme stock phase.
anovikov 10/29/2025||
Circular deals marching on
kordlessagain 10/29/2025||
Nokia is well positioned to enter the humanoid robot market.
braebo 10/29/2025|
I can’t wait to raise my kids for their mandatory, AI-designated space labor career at NvidiaGoogleZon Corp after they buy the last remaining business and all of North America while I rent out my excess wetware compute in my sleep through my state-sponsored brain implant to pay for credits for my nutrient slop printer.
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