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Posted by denysvitali 5 days ago

1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order(www.1x.tech)
172 points | 165 commentspage 5
xattt 5 days ago|
I’m wondering how this thing will age. Will the cloth end up getting oil and soil stains and taking on a funk?
yesfitz 5 days ago|
Per the keynote video, the bodysuit is machine washable.

As long as 1X stays in business or enthusiasts exist, I have to imagine there will be some option to clean/replace the head covering on the $20,000 robot.

atonse 5 days ago|||
Will it wash itself? Would be totally ironic if we had to strip the robot of its clothes and wash it :)
rootnod3 5 days ago||
Buy two and make them wash each other :D
xattt 5 days ago||||
I just think about how things are when they are brand new versus their in-use appearance.

Think about a MacBook that’s a couple of years old. Glossy letters on the keycaps, a couple of sneeze splatters on the screen, some cosmetic scratches.

yesfitz 5 days ago||
I actually stopped using a phone case because I liked the dings and scratches on my phone. The wear made it feel like my device.

As for cloth, I feel similarly about my worn flannel shirts and some chunky-knit sweaters, but not car seats or white shirts with some tomato-sauce stain on them.

Assuming this style of robot catches on, the designers or enthusiasts may find ways to make the cloth wear feel cozy instead of ratty.

Hamuko 5 days ago|||
Can it wash its own bodysuit?
SV_BubbleTime 5 days ago||
I super duper don’t want to watch it crawl out of its own skin thank you very much for that offer.
gigel82 5 days ago||
So, like a large scale scam to get your "downpayment" ?

How would remote human operators scale, especially for the $20k "ownership" model? I presume the actual hardware probably costs them at least $10k to make, so after about 400 hours of "remote operator use", it's all loss on the company?

I suspect they have a limit on use, or a pay-to-use-remotely thing they neglected to announce.

lamsey 5 days ago||
There is no way that the $500/mo or $20k flat price points are profitable. Cash influx is definitely important, but it seems to me that the real "value" from deploying with remote operators to handle any interesting tasks is in building an in-home data moat.
bluGill 5 days ago||
That could be profitable if it works well. If it proves very useful in the real world owners will brag about and talk about it making this the "in thing" to have. When people buy it that means they can scale. If this takes off I expect in 10 years the price will be about $5000 each and they are selling enough to make a lot of money. I'm assuming that they will design/build it to last about 10 years before wearing out which means repeat customers - not quite as good as a subscription but still something wall street likes to see.

There are a lot of best cases in the above. Time will tell if it works. I'm not betting on it, but I'm cautious so don't read too much into that.

bottlepalm 5 days ago|||
$200 is refundable, so not a scam at all, just holding your spot in line like any other pre-order.

It's pretty clear that they're still working on the AI training so 'human in the loop' is not part of their long term business model.

trey34627 4 days ago||
Technically I think there will be additions in costs, so the remote training tasks will probably cost money.
bicepjai 4 days ago||
Can it fold clothes and do dishes ? If so take my money
DmitryOlshansky 4 days ago||
I just wonder if it has the three laws builtin.
ndsipa_pomu 4 days ago|
I just hope they didn't install the evil red eyes at the factory. I often wonder why they do that with robots in films - it's just asking for trouble.
rootnod3 4 days ago||
Maybe a very unpopular opinion, but if you have money to spend on that fad, you are a new level of douche. Take that money and sponsor some open source projects or gift it to charities. If you can’t be arsed to put a plate into a dishwasher you got a level of problem that is so removed from actual problems that it’s weird.

That is even disregarding the privacy implications of a robot that walks around the house with a fucking camera attached to its noggins. If anyone thinks that the camera is only there for the job and kit collecting data is fooling themselves. Because I will bet my ass that that’s how the company actually makes money from investors.

onlyrealcuzzo 5 days ago||
Cleaning robots are pretty good, and it's mostly a solved problem, for an order of magnitude (almost 2) under this price point.

What else are we getting AT BEST beside taking out the trash and gimmicks?

sam_goody 5 days ago||
Kohler once made a gold plated toilet seat as a display item for their show rooms.

The Kohler rep near me was pretty surprised when someone walked in and offered ridiculous cash for the seat on display. The buyer explained... "There is no way I can impress my guests more than having them realize that even the toilet seat is gold plated." Kohler wound up selling the whole run.

Nothing, perhaps, less than a Humanoid robot that is almost as good as Roomba.

People will pay a crazy amount of money to show off.

serf 5 days ago|||
>Cleaning robots are pretty good, and it's mostly a solved problem

everyone that ever tells me that has hardwood or tile floors and a mostly uncluttered house with no doors.

yes: cleaning robots are a solved problem for people with clean uncluttered houses free of long-hair pets or a spouse/etc with a laundry-throwing problem.

SV_BubbleTime 5 days ago|||
No one is going to put a wig on their roomba though.
gitaarik 5 days ago||
What? Mostly solved problem? I can think of countless household tasks that I can't think of a robot for
virajk_31 3 days ago||
Do we have to wash it?
Jayakumark 5 days ago|
Can it cook ?
Dilettante_ 5 days ago||
Looks like it could pass butter, at least.
denysvitali 5 days ago|||
From their FAQs:

> Initially, NEOs cooking capabilities will be restricted from use. NEO can provide you with great recipes or help with the cleaning up instead.

xnx 5 days ago||
Huge risk having it operate in a kitchen: open flame, hot liquids, spills, sharps, etc.
Hamuko 5 days ago||
The main risk I was thinking of was poisoning you.
SV_BubbleTime 5 days ago|||
Look at it, clearly only serves tomatoe sauces, red wine, and beets.
souvlakee 5 days ago||
Let him cook.
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