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Posted by stalfosknight 4 days ago

Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update(arstechnica.com)
624 points | 522 commentspage 11
neilv 4 days ago|
A lot of outrage in HN comments, but it's kinda ironic, because if you had to point at the single biggest concentration of people who built out surveillance capitalism and other facets of our digital dystopian future...

Maybe the people complaining are the ones whose employers don't even sell out people with third-party trackers on their Web site. But I see more than 3 people complaining.

Hansenq 3 days ago||
Everyone here seems to hate on the idea of seeing ads on an appliance you purchased. I hate ads too!

But, let's consider the counterfactual. What if Samsung offered you a new fridge for free, as long as you were ok with passive ads?

I hate ads, but I'm not sure I would pass up a free fridge...those things are expensive!

(this is not even that unrealistic. Let's say you have a household of 3 and a fridge lasts 10 years. Meta makes about $200 per year per user solely from showing ads; that's $6000 over 10 years. If Samsung got as good as Meta is (which they likely won't), 6k is more than enough to cover the cost of giving a fridge away for free)

lifter3101 3 days ago||
Are they going to lock the fridge for 30 seconds each time you want to open it so that they make sure you finish watching the ad?
g-b-r 2 days ago|||
Did they do it?

Did we get free TVs, free cars and free phones?

pndy 3 days ago||
> What if Samsung offered you a new fridge for free, as long as you were ok with passive ads?

I'd still buy a normal fridge from a different vendor. There's absolutely no reason why fridge needs a display screen nor any "smart" features. And no ad deal would convince me because next thing that would come after this would be the obvious "watch ads to unlock the fridge".

Household appliances are meant to work for years - sure, now lifespan is way shorter than used to be but these aren't phones we're replacing every 3 years or so. The fridge we once had lasted 25 up until cooling unit failed and there was no way to replace it or fix.

I hope you rolled some really low bait here because if you really think like that then... I sincerely feel sorry for you.

1970-01-01 4 days ago||
So a digital calendar with ads seems reasonable. What they don't mention is how much work they plan on putting into the maintenance. A $3k fridge should last decades, including the screen, software, and WiFi connection.
tandr 4 days ago|
Last decades? wipes the tear You surely forgot /s at end, I hope. The evil incarnation what is called "Samsung fridge" that I have in my kitchen required repairman's attention just 3 months after the purchase. And then every 3 months after. And children sacrifices, sorry - steam baths, for the ice maker every month or so.

Samsung appliances - never again.

PS. Repairman told me that Samsung have fixed already one of the problems my fridge has by the time he looked at it, kind of hidden recall and fix. Fridge's version (yes, they have versions) have advanced like 7 iterations already from the time I bought it. That means there were at least 7 serious design/manufacturing problems that they had to fix.

hn_acc1 4 days ago||
I mean.. that's based on the assumption that they actually care about delivering a working appliance.. As long as the spyware works, they don't really care about the "cooling food" part..
sylvainr65 4 days ago|
Apparently, you can turn off ads quite simply.

* How to turn off ads on your Family Hub The widget will appear by default on the fridges as part of the software update. However, Samsung is giving users the option to turn off ads. To do this, go to the Settings page on the fridge, scroll to Advertisements, select it, and you’ll be taken to a screen where you can toggle off ads.

This will remove the widget entirely. If you think you might actually like the widget’s other features (calendar, weather, and news), you can “X” out a particular ad, and it won’t pop up again. But then you’ll get another ad.

roskelld 4 days ago||
That button will soon become "Show fewer ads" if it doesn't just get removed at all.

Just like how Youtube won't let you switch off Shorts, but will let you click "Show fewer" which lasts for a few weeks.

beerandt 4 days ago|||
Samsung marketplace on the phone used to have this- now it's just 'don't show this again today' button.
pavel_lishin 4 days ago|||
I wonder how many ads are coming down the pipeline; can I remove all of them if I sit in front of my fridge for 15 minutes?
dmitrygr 4 days ago||
Cmon. You know better than that.
driverdan 4 days ago|||
The simplest way is to not connect a refrigerator to the internet.
kalaksi 4 days ago|||
For now.
ncr100 4 days ago||
I would call that flow "complex." So, I disagree with you.

Simple would be for the "X" button to offer to turn off Ads completely, do you disagree?

(Disclaimer: I'm a pro / lifelong tech and both are "simple" to me. And to clarify my opinion, my Mom, who is a pro musician, would NOT discover / know how to find that option.)