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Posted by jxmorris12 10/28/2025

Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste(seated.ro)
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nonethewiser 10/29/2025|
The author gives several examples of tinkering. Tweaking mouse sensitivity in FPS, installing a linux distro, experimenting with windows managers, changing mechanical keyboard caps etc.

Then he looks at one specific example of tinkering, the IDE, and sorts people as tinkerers based on that.

>There are plenty of people who still use the VSCode terminal as their default terminal, do not know what vim bindings are, GitHub desktop rather than the cli (at the very least). I’m not saying these are bad things necessarily, just that this should be the minimum, not the median.

Couldn't someone not tinker with an IDE and still tinker with other things? I mean clearly you dont have to tinker with everything that can possibly be tinkered with, right? What is it about the IDE that makes it necessary to tinker with?

It seems like this was the main motivation for the article and then it got a bit over-abstracted.

imiric 10/28/2025||
It's hard to take seriously anyone who unironically says "there are two kinds of people".

That, and the judgmental humblebrag tone leads me to believe the author is young. I suggest they focus more on learning than writing these vapid articles.

creer 10/29/2025||
Except "taste before skill" is a well known issue and source of frustration for starting artists: They can already see what's good and they know what they want to do, but they don't yet have skill in measure with their taste and get locked in a feeling of inadequacy. They resolve that if they stick with it. So, taste looong before skill.

So...

> If you don't tinker, you don't have taste

> Acquiring good taste comes through using various things, discarding the ones you don’t like and keeping the ones you do. if you never try various things, you will not acquire good taste.

No. That's not how it works.

ambicapter 10/29/2025||
Why was the title of this changed?
nchmy 10/29/2025|
Just noticed that as well. Isn't this strictly against the rules here? It has a completely different meaning from the original title and actual article content.
mads_quist 10/29/2025||
Unpopular opinion here probably but: Tinkering is also a great habit to be disappointed and unhappy. I love software and programming, but the apologetic requirements that can come from users mean adding a lot of complexity to software, that leads to many bugs and very slow programs. Everything has a cost attached.
r_lee 10/29/2025||
I feel like this is true as ever, yet the current environment seems to be going towards the opposite, I.e. not about taste but just doing as much as possible, as much hours, as many responsibilities, just shipping out slop as fast as you can, don't waste time on stuff, all about being a 1000x AI engineer etc..

I'm tired boss

constantcrying 10/28/2025||
I despise the word "taste" for preferring specific software and workflows. Why are you selecting for aesthetic experience over usefulness?

I do get satisfaction from the results of my work, not through the mechanical process of arriving there. Tools are useful or not and this is the category by which I decide to use them or not.

IncreasePosts 10/28/2025||
Can the aesthetic experience improve usefulness? A million years ago I had an MP3 player with all of my mp3s on it. I listened to it every now and then. But when the iPod came out, and I put my same MP3 library on there, I listened to it all the time because it was super nice to use and interact with
30minAdayHN 10/28/2025|||
Is the author doing that over usefulness or doing that in addition to usefulness? Some people would also enjoy the journey with the tool, along with the results. Just because someone enjoys the 'taste' of the tool doesn't mean that they don't care about usefulness.

Also usefulness is very subjective too depending on the context and scope.

PantaloonFlames 10/28/2025|||
> And what I mean by taste here is simply the honed ability to distinguish mediocrity from excellence. This will be highly subjective, …

It is not about aesthetics , from my reading. You brought that connotation into the conversation.

waynesonfire 10/28/2025|||
Good for you, some people enjoy the journey.
supportengineer 10/28/2025||
Not only that but a tool is only useful in a specific context
paulcole 10/28/2025||
> Have you ever spent hours tweaking the mouse sensitivity in your favorite FPS game?

Ah yes, the true shibboleth of taste-havers.

imp0cat 10/29/2025||
That's just OCD, not taste.
paulcole 10/29/2025||
It’s also not OCD.
IncreasePosts 10/28/2025||
Maybe tinkering is a necessary but insufficient condition for taste
paulcole 10/28/2025||
Do you think it is?
IncreasePosts 10/29/2025||
No. But I also don't think tinkering is required to have taste.
paulcole 10/30/2025||
Why did you say, “Maybe tinkering is a necessary…”

If you think tinkering isn’t necessary?

IncreasePosts 10/30/2025||
I was presenting what may be the OPs opinion
paulcole 10/31/2025||
Thank you for your service
mold_aid 10/29/2025|
the dabbler's expertise
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