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Posted by LorenDB 2 days ago

Keep Android Open(keepandroidopen.org)
2646 points | 858 commentspage 7
deanc 2 days ago|
EDIT: apologies I misunderstood that this is limiting third-party distribution. I am of course, in favour of this.

Original comment:

I don't want this. The App Store on iOS has its flaws, but it's a curated system that has a lot of checks in place to prevent malware. I have never felt unsafe on iOS and it's the primary reason I've not joined Android and the Play Store's wild west.

adithyassekhar 2 days ago||
I can't emphasize this enough, your comment is 100% wrong.

This is about only allowing play verified apps. Play store will remain whatever you think of it regardless of this move.

franczesko 2 days ago||
What this has to do with the topic, if you're on iOS?
deanc 2 days ago||
Because I'd actually be interested in an Android phone if Google locks down the play store to legitimate actors, increases the barrier for entry and improves the quality and safety of submissions. Which this looks to be doing?
celsoazevedo 2 days ago|||
This is not Google locking down the Play Store, it's them restricting distribution outside the Play Store, which you don't have to do in any case.
deanc 2 days ago||
Apologies. I did _NOT_ gather that from reading the OP.
koiueo 2 days ago||||
Why would you be interested in Android?

Isn't iOS a pinnacle of UI/UX loaded with most innovative features in the world backed by the most genius CEOs of all times?

SXX 2 days ago||||
You should just check submission link contents before commenting. This just locks down apps outside of google play.
wiseowise 2 days ago|||
> Android phone if Google locks down the play store to legitimate actors, increases the barrier for entry and improves the quality and safety of submissions

Locks down how? This is literally how it is from the start. Ignoring the fact that it is completely unrelated to the topic, this is just wrong regardless.

cryptoneo 2 days ago||
The play store ID process is ridiculous, their AI is making up BS why it wouldn't let your documents pass, clearly no human in the loop.

In the EU we can report this to: comp-market-information@ec.europa.eu

State that: Google is abusing its dominant position on the market for Android-app distribution by “denial of access to an essential facility”. Google is not complying with their "gatekeeper" DMA obligations (Article 5(4), Article 6(12), Article 11, Article 15)

Attach evidence.

Financial penalty is the only way to pressure this company to abide law.

aprilfoo 1 day ago|
The EU's DMA team replied to a previous inquiry:

> [...] the Digital Markets Act (‘DMA’) obliges gatekeepers like Google to effectively allow the distribution of apps on their operating system through third party app stores or the web. At the same time, the DMA also permits Google to introduce strictly necessary and proportionate measures to ensure that third-party software apps or app stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system or to enable end users to effectively protect security. [...]

They seem to be on it, but no surprise: it's all about Google's claims for "security" and "ongoing dialogue gatekeepers".

Freedom to use own hardware or software, no.

runiq 2 days ago||
Unfortunately the feedback period for the European Digital Fairness Act has been closed since October 24th. Does anyone know of another way to appeal to my European overlords^H representatives?
aembleton 2 days ago|
Write to your mep
jama211 1 day ago||
Well I’m sure these comments will be rational and balanced…
didacusc 2 days ago||
It's finally the time for Sailfish OS / Linux Smartphone OSes!
npodbielski 2 days ago||
Will this impact forks od AOSP? Like lineage os or graphene os?
555244466 1 day ago|
I'm not familiar with lineageOS but with GrapheneOS any off the apps don't have privileged permissions this includes the Google play services. Google play services works like a normal app via Sandboxed Google play compatibility layer. The layer teaches the play services work like a normal app in standard app sandbox. Because of that, the check of side loaded apps whether or not have been verified by a ID via privileged GSM services are not possible. https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play
WhoSaidWhat2 2 days ago||
You should have all embrace Windows Phone with all of its early issues.
qwertox 2 days ago||
Considering that Google has stated their intent that Chrome OS and Android are moving toward a single unified platform, they will essentially be fucking up the laptop/desktop market as well.

The only remaining good thing about Google is their Project Zero. They have become the same shit as every greedy company.

ilmblover2 1 day ago||
I've seen this website before haha
mortsnort 2 days ago|
I've been using Android phones since the OG Droid (2009) because I could install software on it. My next phone will be an iPhone if this doesn't change.
jhasse 1 day ago|
You can still install software on it.
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