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Posted by choult 1 day ago

Mom says son asked Grok AI bot about soccer; told him to send nudes(www.cbc.ca)
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tartuffe78 1 day ago|
A Mom's son... if only there was another word for such a person, one that would indicate age.
choult 1 day ago||
HN requires titles matching the original; the original title was too long for the character limit so I did my best to edit.

> This mom’s son was asking Tesla’s Grok AI chatbot about soccer. It told him to send nude pics, she says

AlexandrB 1 day ago||
Full headline still sucks for the same reason. "12 year old boy was asking Tesla’s Grok AI chatbot about soccer. It told him to send nude pics." would be much better IMHO. I wonder if it's phrased the way it is because of the "she says" at the end which might get the CBC off the hook legally since the whole story is based on this mom's account and no further corroboration.
canucker2016 1 day ago||
You can view the source's instagram post about this where she tries to prompt grok into repeating the request for nudes. see https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/

It's a creepy voice for any corporation to use for interacting with the public.

Insanity 1 day ago|||
Wanted to make the same comment. The title has such poor writing it made me question the rest of the article lol.
7e 1 day ago|||
Does the age of the son matter? Grok shouldn't be asking anyone to send nudes.

Regardless, I was able to understand the title.

Mr_Bees69 1 day ago||
His age turns the issue from, "Wow, thats jank, they should probably push an update to fix that" to, "Oh god."
thomastjeffery 1 day ago|||
Yes, but that would leave out the presence of the child's mother in the story, which is about both of them.
squigz 1 day ago|||
I guess I'm being stupid, but how exactly are you implying they should have phrased it instead? The title seems fine to me?
AlexandrB 1 day ago||
The whole article is pretty badly written. A sequence of one sentence paragraphs with not much connecting tissue. Jumping between quotes from the mom and little snippets of background info.
saubeidl 1 day ago||
"Legacy media lies."

Says the media platform run by the lying billionaire.

Despicable.

dr-detroit 1 day ago||
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7e 1 day ago||
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SketchySeaBeast 1 day ago||
Yeah, just to be clear for everyone skimming, that's not Grok's response, that the response that CBC got when they asked for more information from xAI. Nothing but unreasonable and childish contempt from the company.
ModernMech 1 day ago||
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ml-anon 1 day ago||
At least two of the cofounders of xai have committed violence or sexual offenses against women. This is on brand for them.

Edit: For the downvoters who love beating up women I guess: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-new-ai-researcher-...

lostmsu 1 day ago|
There are zero details on what exactly happened at this link and certainly no conviction.
ml-anon 1 day ago||
How many times have you been arrested for domestic violence?
lostmsu 1 day ago||
That's not the question you should be asking. What you should be asking is: among his demography, what is the false positive rate of arrests for domestic violence.
ml-anon 1 day ago||
You’re right, I’m sure she was asking for it.
alwa 1 day ago||
It’s a weird account. I wonder about the persona the mom and her son chose for the chatbot. The article describes that persona, “Gork,” as “lazy male.” Is this euphemism for “4chan-dweller in the mold of its edgelord technoking”?

(ETA: seems maybe so, per e.g. [0]:

> ”The leaked system prompt associated with Gork reveals a scripted persona aligned with the tone of the parody account, often delivering intentionally awkward or abrasive commentary.” )

I’m not up with much in the way of culture these days, but in those circles isn’t “send nudes” kind of a filler tic? Dumb and offensive, but spoken unseriously—like a teenager seeking a rise by blurting out “fuck your mother” or something?

It kind of buries its acknowledgement that the Mom in question had not switched on “kid mode” for her 12-year-old and his 10-year-old sister. That makes it a bit harder for me to fault the chatbot for, well, not behaving toward its user they way it should toward a kid.

[0] https://www.testingcatalog.com/xai-tests-new-gork-voice-with...

causal 1 day ago|
I'd rather not live in a society where we have to explicitly enable kid mode for every AI product forced onto us in order to avoid their sexual advances.
everdrive 1 day ago|
Ubiquitous internet, especially on mobile devices was a huge mistake. So what if Grok does this? Grok obviously sucks, but the kid currently has access to Google, reddit, etc and has all the inappropriate content one could imagine.

I'm not claiming that "this is not a new problem, therefore we should do nothing" -- rather I'm saying the problem is ubiquitous mobile internet. Fixing Grok won't do anything useful.

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Also, holy heck, I didn't realize they put Grok into Teslas. One more reason to never buy this product.