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Posted by jnsgruk 4 days ago

Introducing architecture variants(discourse.ubuntu.com)
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tommica 2 days ago|
Once they have rebuilt with rust, they get to move away from GPL licenses and get to monetize things.
zer0zzz 2 days ago||
There was a fat elf project to solve this problem at one point I thought.
DrNosferatu 2 days ago|
Link?
mariusor 2 days ago||
Maybe parent is referring to icculus' FatELF proposal from fifteen years ago? https://icculus.org/fatelf/
wyldfire 2 days ago||
Would we have something like aarch64 neon/SVE too?
justahuman74 2 days ago||
If this goes well - will they do v4 as well?
jnsgruk 2 days ago||
Maybe - likely we’ll trade-off the added build/test/storage cost of maintaining each variant - so you might not see amd64v4, but possibly amd64v5 depending on how impactful they turn out to be.

The same will apply to different arm64 or riscv64 variants.

mwhudson 2 days ago||
Probably not v4 unless AVX512 becomes more ubiquitous than it looks like it will. But yeah, I don't expect this to be the only variant ever.
amelius 2 days ago||
Can we please have an "apt rollback" function?
julian-klode 2 days ago||
Yes sure

apt (3.1.7) unstable; urgency=medium . [ Julian Andres Klode ] * test-history: Adjust for as-installed testing . [ Simon Johnsson ] * Add history undo, redo, and rollback features

dima55 2 days ago||
Exciting. I just looked for docs about these new features, and can't find anything. Can you point us to these? Thanks!
riskable 2 days ago|||
If you're using btrfs, you do get that feature: https://moritzmolch.com/blog/2506.html
o11c 2 days ago||
That fundamentally requires a snapshot-capable filesystem, so you need to use a distro designed around such.
amelius 2 days ago||
Not necessarily. You can use the ptrace() system call to trace a process and store what it reads/writes into a journal, etc.

https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/ptrace.2.html

shmerl 2 days ago||
Will Debian do it?
bmitch3020 2 days ago|
https://wiki.debian.org/ArchitectureVariants
shmerl 2 days ago||
Hm, discussion is from 2023. Did anything come out of it?
bmitch3020 2 days ago||
I believe it's just discussions right now. If/when something happens, I'm hoping they'll update the wiki.
brucehoult 2 days ago||
So now they can support RISC-V RVA20 and RVA23 in the same distro?

All the fuss about Ubuntu 25.10 and later being RVA23 only was about nothing?

snvzz 2 days ago|
They sure can, but it seems they simply did not want to.
lotfi-mahiddine 2 days ago||
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