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Posted by 1vuio0pswjnm7 11/2/2025

Meta readies $25B bond sale as soaring AI costs trigger stock sell-off(www.ft.com)
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mdhb 11/2/2025|
If Meta manages to die in the coming AI apocalypse it will make me extremely happy. They are an absolute cancer on society.
zkmon 11/2/2025||
It used to have some survival instincts. It was gobbling young companies such as whatapp and insta to keep itself alive. But with metaverse they lost the plot and now desperate to cling on to AI wave. Yep, this dino is gone.
ares623 11/2/2025||
Not even a cloud platform to keep it going indefinitely. At least IBM had enterprise customers.
esseph 11/2/2025||
You say that like IBM is gone. They are an enterprise platform and cloud giant (tooling), among many other things. (Quantum, O/T division, etc.)
edm0nd 11/2/2025|||
I honestly think the world would be better without Meta if it did die.

I'm sure other corpos would snatch up all their properties like Threads and IG but still it would be a net positive.

apples_oranges 11/2/2025||
But I just use Instagram to look at photography content. Am I helping to destroy society?
Waterluvian 11/2/2025|||
I think everyone has a right to opt out of politics. Nobody should have to pay attention or have opinions or be an activist. But that doesn’t mean their actions aren’t affecting the politics, nor does it make them immune from being judged.
bzzzt 11/2/2025||||
Every click you send to Meta is used to build your personal profile to generate ad revenue. So yes, you’re helping them in a very small way…
ares623 11/2/2025||||
Unironically yes? A very small amount, sure. But every eyeball counts.
DecentShoes 11/2/2025|||
How on earth are you still getting Instagram to serve you photos and not month old tiktok videos? I haven't seen a photo in Instagram in years.
dmix 11/2/2025||
> Oracle sold $18bn of bonds in September.

Why is Oracle going into debt for AI? What are they doing

donavanm 11/2/2025||
financing huge deals for use of OCI https://finance.yahoo.com/news/oracle-corp-orcl-q4-2025-0701.... See Q4 FY25

> Total Cloud Revenue (SaaS + IaaS): $6.7 billion, up 27%. CapEx (Full Year): $21.2 billion. The company is facing supply constraints, unable to meet the high demand for its cloud services, leading to scheduling customers into the future.

Much lower name recognition for smaller customers. But there are some big big name "AI" & B2C companies who have _huge_ spend with OCI. This isnt "rent a couple of instances" its much more like "provide a couple GW of compute for X years."

lordofgibbons 11/2/2025|||
Building data centers for OpenAI, but it requires a lot of upfront capital.
diamond559 11/2/2025||
Pumping the stonk one last time.
killingtime74 11/2/2025||
https://archive.is/qlPU9
ksec 11/3/2025||
It seems Cloud and Datacenter is still in demand and are outstripping supply. Something I just dont understand. Where are they all coming from? It cant just be AI. I really wish there is some explanation of these capital investment.
ASalazarMX 11/3/2025|
It really is crypto and AI, and NVidia will suffer greatly if the AI bubble bursts before something new that demands their GPUs arrives. Right now AI is being shoehorned into everything, and the hunting season has to end at some point.
HelloUsername 11/2/2025||
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-30/meta-plat...
DataDaemon 11/2/2025||
How is going metaverse?
paxys 11/3/2025||
The numbers are stupid yes but it's weird to me that Meta is bearing the brunt of it while Nvidia, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, OpenAI, Anthropic and all the rest continue to be rewarded by investors. If/when the bubble bursts everyone is going down.
telotortium 11/3/2025|
1. Meta has released primarily open models until now. 2. Meta's models have always been somewhat behind the cutting edge, and the gap has grown wider as of Llama 4. 3. The AI orgs at Meta are in well-publicized shakeups, so investors are naturally skittish about the chaos there.
hulitu 11/3/2025||
> Meta readies $25B bond sale as soaring AI costs trigger stock sell-off

Insider trading ? /s

rchaud 11/3/2025|
Meta has $43 billion in cash and cash equivalents as of December 2024 [0]. What is the reason for not using part of those reserves, and issuing debt instead, costing them hundreds of millions in fees to investment banks and bondholders?

Also, if they are issuing bonds to the public, does that mean that private lenders aren't lending any more?

[0] https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/META/balance-sheet/

Tiktaalik 11/3/2025||
It offloads some risk, less directly onto meta, and more shared by outside investors.
ceejayoz 11/3/2025||
Why risk your own money when people are lining up to risk theirs?
drevil-v2 11/3/2025||
It's a bond sale. They get preferential treatment in case of insolvency.
ceejayoz 11/3/2025||
Sure, but they aren't insolvent until (at the very least) they spend that $43B on hand.

I don't forsee it happening to Facebook anytime soon, but companies going to $0 isn't unprecedented.