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Posted by iansteyn 11/2/2025

Synesthesia helps me find four-leaf clovers (2023)(matthewjamestaylor.com)
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jp57 11/10/2025|
I, too, experience some synethesia with letters and numbers (two is green, three is yellow, 4 is blue), but when I look at a field of clover, I don't experience a field of numbers representing the number of leaves on the individual clover stalks. In fact that seems like a weird way of perceiving nature. When I see a bird flying with its two wings outstretched, I'm not experiencing the number 2, and thus I get no sense of green.
thangalin 11/11/2025||
The main protagonist in my novel experiences synethesia. She talks about numbers having colours. To help ensure consistency throughout the novel, I developed a text editor (KeenWrite) that allows me to refer to externally defined variables within the prose, such as:

      syn_1: black
      syn_2: purple
      syn_3: red
      syn_4: gold
      syn_5: blue
      syn_6: silver
      syn_7: yellow
      syn_8: brown
      syn_11: teal
      syn_16: orange
It's tempting to change the colour map based on your abilities. How far does your colour mapping go and what other "columbers" (that's what the protagonist calls them) do you perceive?
moralestapia 11/10/2025||
Respectfully, I don't think synesthesia is behind OP's purported skill.
pturing 11/10/2025||
Hi, synesthesia researcher here! (1)

Here's a few relevant things we know:

- Synesthesia is not rare. You probably know someone that has synesthesia, even they haven't mentioned it.

- There are many forms of synesthesia. Many documented forms that we know of, and very probably a bunch we haven't documented yet.

- There are cases of tasks where we are able to measure enhanced performance of that task by synesthetes. (2)

- While some synesthetes do have a single form of synesthesia, it is common for synesthetes to experience multiple forms. We've found cluster groups where subjects with a given form are more likely to have another form within the same cluster.

From the other writings on the OP's site, we can see that they report to have at least two forms of Colored Sequence Synesthesia: Grapheme -> Color, and Day of the Week -> Color.

Their report of their experience in the linked article sounds like possibly Shape -> Motion. This is a form they could have, and it's plausible that someone already known to be a multiple synesthete might also experience this.

It is also plausible that someone with a Shape -> X type of synesthesia would be able use that to spot the odd shape out faster than others.

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(1) I maintained the online synesthesia battery for a number of years while working in the Eagleman Neuroscience Lab at Baylor College of Medicine

(2) Some of these are ones that allowed us to study synesthesia on a larger scale by testing online! Among those, one particularly notable form of test is Stroop Interference. Genuine synesthetes are able to respond much faster and more accurately, and we get a good clear separation between them and controls.

jsdalton 11/10/2025||
That all sounds very interesting. As someone who has synesthesia, I’d be interested if you still maintain those tests you refer to?
pturing 11/10/2025||
I'm not currently active with it myself, but the site is still here:

https://synesthete.org

Back when I was handling it, we were still using Flash for most of the interactive tests, because that was how you had to do it when it was first built circa 2007. Obviously those would have had to be redone in HTML5 since then to keep it working on modern browsers.

dandersch 11/11/2025||
>It's a condition in which one type of stimulation evokes the sensation of another, as when the hearing of a sound produces the visualization of a color.

So what happens when synesthetes watch a movie that is showing blue colors, but the score that they are hearing at that time is making them see red. Do they perceive that as a dissonance?

matsemann 11/11/2025|
Have you seen the concept of "impossibly colors"? Maybe like those, where you present one color to one eye and one to the other, and make the brain invent something.
zeristor 11/10/2025||
Fascinating.

This makes me wonder if there’s a way to set data visualisation to make the most of this for those gifted people.

I’m in a minority thinking that perhaps the limiting RGB colour gamut should be made into 4 colours to accommodate those people who can see four colours, tetrachromacy, ~95% of us have a visual impairment.

lawlessone 11/10/2025||
I wonder if humans killing 4+ leaf clovers is enough of issue that they're selected against...
sumnole 11/10/2025||
It helps that the four leaf phenotype can be recessively carried and passed on by normal clovers.
throwway120385 11/10/2025|||
The plant survives, even if the leaves get damaged. So it's not really selecting against them.
hamdingers 11/10/2025||
I'd imagine the practice of mowing introduces a lot of noise into that signal.
Kiboneu 11/11/2025||
I don’t see color change but I “hear” them when I scan my eyes over the pictures, and when I listen more closely I can spot more subtle details (including the 5-leaf clovers).
zeristor 11/10/2025||
Clover can’t be the same species both sides of the Atlantic can it?

Is American clover an invader, or a similar species from before tectonic plates drew out the Ocean?

iansteyn 11/10/2025||
Meta-HN question from a newbie: Can someone help me understand why my 9-day-old submission is suddenly on the front page and says it’s from 3 hours ago?

Edit: Solved.

hamdingers 11/10/2025|
Could be something from the second-chance pool.

See here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308

iansteyn 11/10/2025||
Aha, yep this is it. I got an email about it but didn’t notice until just now.