Top
Best
New

Posted by fanf2 11/2/2025

Stop 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header (2024)(neilzone.co.uk)
65 points | 70 commentspage 2
infogulch 11/2/2025|
Is it really that annoying?
johannes1234321 11/2/2025||
My employer uses Outlook/Exchange and those reactions are a lot less annoying than short mails expressing the same thing on mailing lists and also is an alternative to notes not really demanding a proper response ending in the void. (Like a fun/life sharing post)
hk1337 11/2/2025||
I don’t see any issues with it using outlook either but from what it sounds like when people do it for emails not managed by outlook, they’re getting a whole new email about it? If so, I could see how that would be annoying.
tiberious726 11/2/2025|||
Yes
reaperducer 11/2/2025||
Is it really that annoying?

It depends on the context.

If it's my mother acknowledging receipt of a recipe, then it's fine.

If it's a co-worker acknowledging receipt of a legal document, then it is both unprofessional, and annoying.

I mock my co-workers by replying with an actual e-mail message with the word "Thumb!" in it. They've stopped thumbing my e-mail messages.

maccard 11/2/2025|||
> if it's a co-worker acknowledging receipt of a legal document, then it is both unprofessional, and annoying.

Disagree - a reaction is a perfect acknowledgement and a clear sign of “you don’t need to do anything here”. If they send an actual email it could be:

    Acknowledged, thanks.

    By the way can you change X to Y?
And it’s super easy to miss.
idiotsecant 11/2/2025|||
You're that guy who everyone thinks is weird for doing the thing. In the real world language changes over time. We need not be dogmatic about it, you know what it means.
reaperducer 11/2/2025|||
In the real world language changes over time.

This is what we used to say back in high school.

When you have actual "real world" experience, you learn that while language changes, there is professional language that you use in the workplace, and there is informal language that you use in a bar.

You don't use a single vocabulary for every interaction in every situation of your life. You alter your speech for the situation. You don't talk to the cop that just pulled you over, or the bank manager you're trying to get money from, or your mom the same way you talk to your friends watching a sportsball game.

reaperducer 11/2/2025||||
You're that guy who everyone thinks is weird for doing the thing.

You mean like articulating complete sentences?

ziml77 11/2/2025|||
"Annoying" is probably a more accurate word to describe what they're thinking. Coworkers have to remember to not use the reaction buttons with this one specific person who responds like an ass to them.
reaperducer 11/2/2025||
If they annoy me, I can annoy them right back.

In the logic presented in this thread, how is an emoji any different from the word "Thumb?"

mouse_ 11/2/2025||
> I don't want this.

It seems your colleagues do.

wiether 11/2/2025||
I'm not sure they are talking about their colleagues:

> To me - as someone not in the Microsoft ecosystem

And the fact that they are managing their own Postfix seems pretty clear.

As someone in the MS ecosystem at work, I'm using this feature daily (after thinking that it was stupid in the early days)... but I make sure to only use it with coworkers or partners that I know are in the MS ecosystem.

I 100% understand someone being annoyed when they receive an email telling them that someone added an emoji to their email.

Sometimes during the weekend MS is sending me an email recap of the reactions I received during the week and it pisses me off.

The email reactions should be silent and that's their goal: a quiet ack.

wkat4242 11/2/2025|||
The problem with this is embrace extend extinguish. The way Microsoft adds features to email that only work well in their ecosystem and annoy everyone else is a clear extend phase in progress
AlexandrB 11/2/2025|||
Google is trying a similar strategy with AMP for email[1]. I think we're going to miss interoperable email once it's gone.

[1] https://developers.google.com/workspace/gmail/ampemail

wiether 11/2/2025|||
Yeah that's why I didn't quite welcomed the feature at first: that's just MS adding their stuff and not following a standard.
bee_rider 11/2/2025|||
Yeah. I think reactions emojis are just the gen-z version of the subject line:

RE: Here are the plans. Ack <eom>

In that sense they basically make sense and it should be unmysterious that people want them.

wiether 11/2/2025|||
> I think reactions emojis are just the gen-z version

Every time someone tells that something I use and enjoy is "the gen-z version" of something, I'm getting worried: is it me trying to keep-up with the cool kids?

Having a few "gen-z" in my team, I quickly came to the conclusion that trying to profile them in a single group was silly: they all behave differently, like every human ever did.

ziml77 11/2/2025||
As someone squarely in gen y. I've had the same feelings about me doing stuff that others are associating with gen z.

I think there may be two things at play here. One is that some people are just bad at adapting to social shifts and assume that everyone is the same way as them. The other is that people have gotten loose with usage of generation terms. So for some older people "gen z" = "person younger than me", while for some younger people "boomer" = "person older than me"

And both of those are problems with the speaker, so now I just ignore them and happily keep on doing the "gen z" things.

bee_rider 11/2/2025|||
FWIW I mean just as a thing that gen-z popularized, I don’t think they think they own the idea (well, I hope they don’t, I’m not gen-z and I use them).

Anyway, the oldest gen-z is just about pushing 30 now, so they get to join us lame people with sore backs.

wiether 11/2/2025|||
Thanks for your perspective, I must say that I agree with you
johannes1234321 11/2/2025||||
That Mail is very different from reactions. A nice thing is that outlook can simply sum up the reactions and show them along the message in a non-intrusive way.

A Mail, even with just a subject takes a lot more space and leads somebody to answer to it which messes up the thread.

wiether 11/2/2025|||
> A nice thing is that outlook can simply sum up the reactions and show them along the message in a non-intrusive way.

Yeah, that's why I came to like the feature. It's even visible at two places: in the thread list and on an individual email.

The only downside for now: the choice of emoji is too limited. I want my eggplant emoji! But given the history in Teams, where they started with a limited set of emojis, before adding all of them and finally allowing custom ones, I guess it's coming!

bee_rider 11/2/2025|||
The emoji adds some new functionality for sure. That’s just the nature of iterative improvement, right?
wkat4242 11/2/2025|||
They don't either. Microsoft wants it. They even do all this adoption crap basically advertising their own features "did you react to an email today? Did you @name tag a person today?"

If these features were actually compelling people would use them without having to be hoarded by an corporate drone "adoption manager".

zetanor 11/2/2025|||
Thankfully, their wants can be overridden.
tliltocatl 11/2/2025||
Colleagues simply don't understand the implications. The idea is good. The implementation is crap.
tomhow 11/2/2025||
Previously:

Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40978073 - July 2024 (354 comments)

bakql 11/2/2025|
This seems like a convoluted way of adding a new header, at least compared to the http servers I know. Why is that? Maybe postfix is not the appropriate place to make this change and that’s why there’s no option to just add a new header?
noja 11/2/2025|
One line is convoluted?
mort96 11/2/2025||
It's convoluted that it's a sed-style regex operating on textual headers instead of just ... an option to add a header