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Posted by rbanffy 11/2/2025

Paris had a moving sidewalk in 1900, and a Thomas Edison film captured it (2020)(www.openculture.com)
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excalibur 11/2/2025|
> It’s fair to say that few of us now marvel at moving walkways, those standard infrastructural elements of such utilitarian spaces as airport terminals, subway stations, and big-box stores.

You've gotta be referring to escalators here. Never seen a moving walkway in a big-box store, or a subway station for that matter.

nlehuen 11/2/2025||
There are at least some in the Paris subway, including one that went at 12 km/h but was decommissioned in 2011:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_walkway#Trottoir_roulan...

seszett 11/3/2025|||
That one was in activity about the same period I took the Montparnasse station somewhat regularly, and over those years I couldn't ever take it as it was always either broken or running opposite to my direction.

I do think a concept with parallel tracks moving at different speeds would have been easier to use and more reliable though. But it might not have been revolutionary/over-engineered enough to attract attention and subsidies.

netsharc 11/3/2025||||
Man, they should've designed it similarly to the video, with parallel tracks with differing speeds. But people's lack of attention would probably lead them to park a foot on each track and causing a tumble.

Speaking of speed, in the Stockholm main station the escalators go faster than others I've experienced... But I don't know if they've adjusted the speed since my experience years ago.

thrance 11/3/2025|||
Decomissioned but still rolling, just slower.
kergonath 11/2/2025|||
> You've gotta be referring to escalators here. Never seen a moving walkway in a big-box store

I have seen some occasionally in stores, in or around Paris. They usually are on an incline to allow trolleys to be taken up or down a level. Or similarly outside malls to get trolleys to the upper level of a car park. That’s in places where you have to stack car parks instead of just having them sprawl all over the place, of course.

> or a subway station for that matter.

There are a few of them in Paris métro stations. Some of them in the London Underground, as well.

dboreham 11/2/2025||
There's one in a Target in the LA area. I forget exactly where it is.
emmelaich 11/3/2025|||
There's one in Sydney, from a carpark to near the city centre, of 207m.

Quoting wikipedia:

> The walkway has been the longest continuous moving walkway in the world since its construction in 1961.

michaelterryio 11/3/2025|||
Notwithstanding the people responding, yes, it is extremely uncommon in "big box stores".
cguess 11/2/2025|||
Not in the US, but in Europe it's more common. Shopping malls in Eastern Europe they're not uncommon.
prmoustache 11/3/2025||
only those that carry the shopping trolleys up/downstairs, designed so the wheels get locked into place.

I have never seen a flat one in anything else but airports or connections between other mass transit transports such as metros and trains. Definitely not in big box stores as they would be inconvenient and slower than pushing the trolley in the flat.

userbinator 11/2/2025|||
I've seen them in airports.
throawayonthe 11/2/2025||
i've seen them in a few metro systems, there's definitely one for transfers in barcelona somewhere
joshdavham 11/3/2025||
Somewhat off-topic, but why are all the men in the film wearing hats? Was this some sort of dress code?
kristopolous 11/3/2025||
Almost every man wore a hat until the 1960s. There's a bunch of weird culture about this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Hat_Riot for instance

There's lots of pictures of the event if you search

WalterBright 11/3/2025|||
I wear a hat outside. It makes walking in the Seattle rain quite pleasant, as my glasses don't fog up and the water doesn't go down the back of my neck. When sunny, I don't need to apply sunscreen, and the glare from the top of my head does not cause car crashes.

As a bonus, I can imagine myself as Clint Eastwood.

gostsamo 11/3/2025|||
People were spending much more time outside and the roads were much more dusty. You need a hat to keep yourself from the sun and the dust. Cars made them obsolete.
1718627440 11/3/2025||
They also make it way easier to great people even over some distance, without awkwardly moving your hand in the air or shouting and annoying all the others.
1718627440 11/3/2025|||
s/great/greet/
1718627440 11/3/2025||||
What do people downvote opinions over clothing for?
slightwinder 11/3/2025|||
Men wearing hats is still quite common today. But the style has changed to baseball caps and similar forms. Most of those "dress codes" usually also have a more practical origin. So it's less of a code, and more a practical benefit.
stateofinquiry 11/3/2025|||
If you are interested in this topic, especially from the US perspective, I recommend this book: https://www.alibris.com/Hatless-Jack-The-President-the-Fedor... . There was apparently significant social pressure for all men to wear hats until the mid C 20th.
p1esk 11/3/2025||
Was this some sort of dress code?

Yes

JoeAltmaier 11/3/2025||
The last US president to wear a Lincoln-style stovepipe hat was ... JFK
Timsky 11/2/2025||
I like how people getting caught by the cameraman greet him with all little social niceties of that time.
quantumVale33 11/3/2025||
It’s amazing how ideas from over a century ago still feel futuristic today.
galaxyLogic 11/2/2025||
At around 1.10 in the video something curious happens: a grown up "passenger"throws a young boy who tries to enter the sidewalk off it. What is going on? Were people more rude in those days?
timcobb 11/3/2025||
> moving walkways, those standard infrastructural elements of such utilitarian spaces as airport terminals, subway stations, and big-box stores

big-box stores? where??

ggm 11/3/2025||
used to go between levels so a flat escalator, can take trolleys or there is a trolley chain haul beside. Bunnings (Hammerbarn if you must) have them. Giant tilt slab constructed category killers. Where sprawl is permitted they're a one layer building but in space constrained areas they have two or three (carpark under a 2 layer building) and these walkways exist to get your inflatable shark, chainsaw and bucket of chips down or up, depending.
Maxatar 11/3/2025||
Every Ikea I've been to has one.
6510 11/3/2025||
I ponder this kind of things from time to time. This one makes a very enjoyable puzzle because it is extremely simply to move people on a conveyor or a rolling platform but amazingly complicated to get them on and off if you want to run it at any meaninfull speed, absurdly complicated.

My mental gymnastics is mostly trying to mobilize an entire city with the concept. I see some research suggesting there is lots of room between walking and driving distance. Bringing a bicycle also has its down sides.

Because getting on and off is already so difficult one tends not to notice the other problems with the tech. A simple crossroad is already a problem.

Moving fast is no issue for the more athletic passenger without luggage. It is also the most useless device to them. People with mobility issues don't have to get on but they do have to cross the road.

You would want to slow down or stop the surface, put a fence around it, you would want chairs, a roof would be nice, perhaps walls so that you can further control the climate. And then you have a bus, metro or tram. (haha)

One cool variation (not my idea) was to have a moving platform fromwhich to get in and out of a moving train, tram or metro. You could also make vehicles that connect on the sides. Those would have lots of fragile moving parts and potential dangerous situations if they fail. I see a night train misaligned with the station one time with the last door opening above the entrance of a pedestrian tunnel. A drunk guy almost walked out into the 5 meter drop. That seems preferable over falling between two moving trains.

6510 11/4/2025|
It seems disney's HollowTile floor might be just the right interface.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68YMEmaF0rs&t=181s

nashashmi 11/2/2025||
That kid getting slapped on the face in the film! What did he do?
austinjp 11/3/2025||
He was a child and probably of a lower (aspirational) class that the guy who slapped him. Children and working-class people having rights is a surprisingly recent concept.
vondur 11/2/2025|||
I think he was spinning on a pole adjacent to the sidewalk.
deadbabe 11/2/2025||
Doesn’t matter, he’s dead now.
netsharc 11/2/2025|||
Someone else in these comments said s/he wonders what lives the people ended up living who were seen in old photos/videos. Your comment makes me wonder what life this boy (well, he's our senior) lived, and what his impact is beyond being a participant of a curious event in a YouTube video. I guess he had a paper trail, relatives, etc, but there's probably no way to identify him from the present (except if someone's grand-grandkid can give us an anecdote about his grand-grandfather seeing a kid being shoved at the moving walkways in Paris..
Vespasian 11/3/2025||
There's a good chance he was fighting in WWI being in his mid 20s.

If he survived that he lived through economic crisis in the twenties and thirties and ultimately WWII including occupation and terror in France.

And ultimately if he got old enough he could have witnessed the early cold war but also European economic bounce back and begining reconciliation between former enemies.

delichon 11/2/2025||||
Could you ask him, deadbabe?
hshdhdhehd 11/3/2025|||
Which also applies to all history?
commandersaki 11/2/2025|
I remember reading about this in Devil in the White City.
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