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Posted by swat535 11/2/2025

Amazon has launched a major global crackdown on Fire Stick piracy(www.the-sun.com)
95 points | 49 comments
herpessimplex10 11/3/2025|
> but the real issue appears to have been the apps’ use of resource-monetization services that grant cybercriminals access to devices and residential IPs for malicious activity.

So the apps are malware that function as residential proxies.

Way to bury the lede.

parsimo2010 11/3/2025||
RTFA. That was for the previous round of blocks, and those apps were restored after the offending behavior was removed.

The current round of blocks is targeting apps that support piracy even if they don’t have any other malicious behavior.

leoh 11/3/2025||
It's pretty incredible how many apps have this kind of functionality. There are some sketch af sites that sell access to these proxies. I took a look to do some web scraping a while ago. In the end, I just ended up using TOR with a Rust API and that worked a lot better and made me feel a lot less dirty, in addition to being free.
rs186 11/3/2025||
Only source is the Sun and there has been no official response from Amazon?

I'll wait till this can be confirmed before deciding what to think of it.

embedding-shape 11/3/2025||
The organization behind the "crackdown" have made a press-release themselves: https://www.fact-uk.org.uk/latest-crackdown-on-illegal-iptv-...

Follow the links in that and it seems to mostly be about people selling Firesticks with software on it that allows purchasers to view piracy streams without doing anything but plug in the device.

woleium 11/3/2025||
that, plus the downgrade and lock option
dexterdog 11/3/2025||
Fortunately when it comes to the $20-30 TV devices there are plenty of options that can be made mostly bloat free that you can install anything you want on.
ciupicri 11/3/2025|
Like what?
dexterdog 11/3/2025|||
Onn devices from Walmart
toomuchtodo 11/14/2025||
https://old.reddit.com/r/cordcutters/comments/1l7iozl/onn_st...
hollow-moe 11/3/2025||||
Chromecast w/ GoogleTV, can even install LineageOS and their new shiny TV launcher on the thing
ciupicri 11/4/2025||
Isn't Chromecast dead? It seems to be out of stock too.
hollow-moe 11/4/2025||
Oh wow you're right, they discontinued CCwGTV for a new device Google TV Streamer 4K. Too bad it was a nice little dongle and not too expensive.
Kiboneu 11/3/2025||||
A computer and an hdmi cable.
embedding-shape 11/3/2025||
Just the HDMI cable would be like at least 25% of that budget, what $10-$15 computer handles displaying 4K for example?
Piterniel 11/3/2025|||
Xiaomi TV Box
NedF 11/3/2025||
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aussieguy1234 11/3/2025||
I keep my old laptops mainly for use as tv boxes.

Even for a 5 year old laptop, my current tv laptop has much more power than a fire stick and I can run whatever I like.

thunderbong 11/3/2025||
Can you give some more details? I have a few old laptops which I can re-purpose for this.
tpxl 11/3/2025|||
Place the laptop behind/below the TV, hook it up via HDMI, install whatever software you want on it (I use plain linux and VLC, but you can install Jellyfin and use the web interface if you want to), use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo to control it. You can enable USB wakeup if you want to minimize power usage, but you have to make sure the keyboard is plugged into a USB port that's powered when shutdown then (if that's even possible given your config).
aussieguy1234 11/4/2025|||
I had an Asus TP500Ln that I only just retried, it lasted me 10 years as a TV box, always more powerful than fire sticks/actual tv boxes.

Replaced it recently with a 4 year old laptop.

I simply install Ubuntu, plug in the TV through HDMI and keep the charger plugged in all the time.

Then I can install stremio, Kodi and any other streaming apps I like. Technically I could also set up some retro games.

para_parolu 11/3/2025||
How do you control them?
voxic11 11/3/2025|||
I use one of these, very convenient. You can even buy multiple of them and place them around the room. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-P...
barrkel 11/3/2025||
All I need in a remote, though, is a direction pad and about 6 buttons: power, select, back, home, volume up & down. And those power and volume buttons need to be routed to the display (projector in my case) and sound bar respectively.
inemesitaffia 11/3/2025||||
You have USB receivers that respond to regular remote controls.
aussieguy1234 11/6/2025||||
I bought an "air mouse" remote from AliExpress. There's a lot around.

On the back it has a little keyboard for typing.

aitchnyu 11/3/2025|||
I would try KDE connect to do keyboard or mouse input.
ChrisArchitect 11/3/2025||
[dupe] Fire TV: Amazon to block piracy apps in the future

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45774284

daft_pink 11/3/2025||
So what’s the alternative android stick that users will soon be purchasing instead?
nekitamo 11/3/2025||
I purchased an Onn TV from Walmart for $25 and am very happy with it after 2 years of using it.

Amazon is sentencing the Fire TV to irrelevance with these dumb decisions, just like the Fire Phone.

kotaKat 11/3/2025||
Fun note - Walmart already started region locking the ONN sticks to US and Puerto Rico.
nekitamo 11/7/2025||
Interesting. I’m using mine in Europe now with no problems.
6ak74rfy 11/3/2025|||
Nvidia Shield is a really good device.
attendant3446 11/3/2025||
It's pretty expensive. And didn't Nvidia started pushing ads?
nickthegreek 11/3/2025||
nvidia doesn’t push ads. shield runs androidtv and with the default stock launcher, you will see the ads google wants you to. but you can easily change the launcher to something like flauncher and have a streamlined experience.
ThrowawayTestr 11/3/2025||
Some backdoored piece of shit from China
RobotToaster 11/3/2025||
As opposed to this obviously backdoored piece of sh*t from America (that was made in China)
dpacmittal 11/3/2025||
Welp! There goes stremio
utf_8x 11/3/2025||
Is there any non-tabloid source for any of this?
embedding-shape 11/3/2025|
I guess this is as close to the dragons mouth as it gets: https://www.fact-uk.org.uk/latest-crackdown-on-illegal-iptv-...

I think the previous events/arrests/sentences they're referring to are all related to people selling "dodgy Fire sticks" or whatever they call it.

add-sub-mul-div 11/3/2025||
This year piracy apps, next year Plex/Jellyfin? Or will they call those piracy apps already?
nerdsniper 11/3/2025||
Just Jellyfin. Plex, being a for-profit corporation, will pay for FireTV app store placement.
Forgeties79 11/3/2025||
You should check out the details on the apps in the article. They’re pretty clearly malware at best.
add-sub-mul-div 11/3/2025||
Right, and security is regularly used to justify starting down a path that's really about profit.
Forgeties79 11/3/2025||
Don’t disagree but these aren’t harmless programs. They’re explicitly designed to exploit users. I am not sympathetic to a crackdown on them even if I want to keep an eye out on how they are cracked down on.
iAMkenough 11/3/2025|||
They're sideloaded by users accepting that risk for themselves.

I'm really not looking forward to the day I can only install sanctioned software from a walled garden on all of the devices I "own." For security reasons, of course…

Forgeties79 11/3/2025||
No disagreement there. I’m just pointing out the nuances.
add-sub-mul-div 11/3/2025|||
I would rather have the freedom and whatever risk comes with it, I'm an adult and don't need any part of tech giant paternalism. Even if their overall interests were aligned with mine.
stonecharioteer 11/3/2025|
> Flix Vision has been shown to use resource monetizing services that pay app developers in exchange for using the device CPU and network traffic while their app is running. Live NetTV has been criticized for doing the same. These kinds of proxy monetization services have been classified as Riskware and accused of giving cybercriminals access to devices and residential IPs for malicious operations.

> It seems far more likely that Amazon targeted and disabled these two apps because they functioned as residential proxy providers, rather than due to any role in facilitating unauthorized access to copyrighted content. For over a decade, Amazon has shown through inaction that it is unwilling to combat piracy outside of its appstore by endlessly disabling third-party piracy apps. However, the possibility of a network of unknowingly compromised Fire TV devices being used as gateways for cybercrimes appears to have been sufficient motivation for Amazon to take action and block the apps.

Sigh. Yeah no. This is a good thing. I'm sure they're not worried about stuff like Jellyfin or SmartTubeTV.