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Posted by donohoe 1 day ago

OpenAI signs $38B cloud computing deal with Amazon(www.nytimes.com)
214 points | 224 commentspage 3
ChrisArchitect 1 day ago||
Official post: https://openai.com/index/aws-and-openai-partnership/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45799021)
thelastgallon 1 day ago||
How much is Amazon 'investing' in OpenAI for this deal?
throw_m239339 1 day ago||
I wouldn't be surprised if a few weeks later, Amazon was investing $38B in NVIDIA for new server processors... like nothing to see here folks, totally not a giant circular bubble...
hypeatei 1 day ago||
We all know this is going to pop at some point but I personally think Amazon would be a good investment for the next 6 months or so. They just did layoffs, can ride the OpenAI hypetrain, and they beat recent earnings. If they beat next earnings with a lower headcount and mention "AI" a couple times, I think their stock price easily goes to $300.

Not financial advice, obviously, but that's my personal outlook. I've said it before: Alphabet is probably the safest play long term as they haven't been infected by any NVIDIA or OpenAI deals (yet)

treis 1 day ago|
OpenAI is an existential threat to Google. They're both solving the same problem for consumers. Something like "there's information on the Internet that I want but don't know where it is". Almost all of Google's value derives from being the default solution to that problem. They can't give up that space to OpenAI. And, at least IMHO, it's obvious LLMs are the future in this area.

The other side to that coin is monetization. Google is dominant there as well. OpenAI can't yield that space to Google because it's how the value is extracted from the consumer.

bwfan123 1 day ago||
reverse that. Google is the existential threat to openAI. Google can price tokens to make openAI never profitable.
naveen99 1 day ago||
Google gave birth to openai by trying to bottle up the gpt genie.
JCM9 1 day ago||
At this point these announcements are more PR posturing than anything that makes financial sense for shareholders.

I do worry what the other side of this looks like when the circular feedback loop driving hype up eventually reverses and drives things down with amplifying effect.

justchad 1 day ago||
Came to post something with a similar sentiment. It's going to have broad market effects when the circle dealing doesn't work out as intended. OpenAI is losing so much money every quarter that they will undoubtedly have to raise prices I would think and people may not be willing to pay them.
bwfan123 1 day ago|||
The negative drumbeat has started, and the narrative is changing to become critical. Every new fad reaches a saturation point, and people's attention spans are short. Already, I see folks piling onto the quantum bandwagon as if LLMs are passe.

Here, the clouds have pulled a trick to inflate their revenues with their own cashflows, and have not been punished yet for it by shareholders - except meta which is getting asked some difficult questions.

whalesalad 1 day ago||
> At this point these announcements are more PR posturing than anything that makes financial sense for shareholders.

corporate would like you to find the difference between these two photos

bfkwlfkjf 1 day ago||
LOL Sam Conman trying to rope everybody in.
nprateem 1 day ago||
Obviously the plan is to lock Anthropic and others out of AWS.

All financial analysis misses the point. They just need to buy enough time and compute to out-last the competition.

All bets are off if China find a way of reducing processing power by 50% or more.

If only killing off grok and Gemini was so easy...

system2 1 day ago||
If it is a bubble, why are huge companies like Amazon and Microsoft feeding it? What do they get by doing this nonstop? All I hear is that this is a bubble on the internet, yet big companies are making these huge deals. Don't they see what we, the uspeasants, see with their highly paid finance departments?
jdlshore 1 day ago||
Big companies are made out of people, and those people are just as fallible as everyone else… and more so, in fact. They’re prone to group-think and suppressing bad news.

The existence proof is, well, every financial crisis ever. Start with the housing bubble and ask, why did huge banks whose entire job was financial modeling get caught up in it? What makes companies today immune to those same types of decision-making errors?

pfortuny 1 day ago|||
It is not a panic if you are the first out…
tacker2000 1 day ago||
Tbh these juggernauts could survive an AI bubble bursting and pick up the pieces, they are playing with a little bit more than their spare change here.
Marazan 1 day ago|
At this point it is getting beyond parody
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