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Posted by todsacerdoti 11/9/2025

Drilling down on Uncle Sam's proposed TP-Link ban(krebsonsecurity.com)
279 points | 369 commentspage 3
jrochkind1 11/10/2025|
I was about to upgrade my router. Should I buy it now before it's banned, or not buy one that's about to be banned cause support/updates will be difficult?

tp-link routers are consistently the wirecutter consumer pick. They've always done me fine, although it's time to upgrade my 6-year-old one. (which prob demonstrates i'm not a router power user).

nwellinghoff 11/10/2025||
Wow. Where are the actual details about the threat, what models are affected etc? How to mitigate the threat? Totally useless.
hulitu 11/10/2025|
> Where are the actual details about the threat,

I think the Chinese do not want American backdoors in their products.

axpvms 11/10/2025||
It's kind of curious that any topic on HN that involves China seems to devolve into how terrible and bad America is.
jrochkind1 11/10/2025|
I guess it's another one that depends on your perspective, cause i was just thinking how any HN topic that involves China seems to devolve into how terrible and bad China is!
abridgett 11/9/2025||
I'll just leave this little NSA intercepting Cisco products reminder here: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
misiek08 11/9/2025||
But Sir! We are talking here between USA <eagle sound> versus rest of the world that’s unsafe and all the time attacking USA people privacy. Cisco is India based, not American!

disclaimer: not connected in any way with Cisco, just disappointed business customer.

NoGravitas 11/10/2025||
Reminder that <eagle sound> is actually the call of a red-tailed hawk, and that the actual call of the bald eagle is far less impressive.
kotaKat 11/9/2025|||
SSL added and removed here! :)
hulitu 11/10/2025||
> NSA intercepting Cisco products

They could have searched on the internet for the backdoor password. /s

jwsteigerwalt 11/10/2025||
We are unfortunately getting to the point where the only option for non-power users will be to create an online account to run local hardware you own; just like Windows 11.

I run OPNsense with a collection of Unifi radios (local controller) with great success.

Havoc 11/10/2025||
If we throw out everything that is a vector for a Chinese supply chain attack / supports them economically then there won’t be any tech in the West

This feels like the painkiller autism thing. Some crazies theory became law

shanecp 11/10/2025||
This is a very one sided article. Shouldn't there be a comparison with TP-Link and all other brands available in-terms of security? Otherwise they're just targeting a company for political reasons.
Johnny555 11/10/2025||
The article is in response to a very one-sided government ban (well, reported ban) on TP-Link products. The company is being targeted for what appears to be political reasons, the article even said so in the first paragraph:

Experts say while the proposed ban may have more to do with TP-Link’s ties to China than any specific technical threats

m000 11/10/2025||
It's a very lukewarm response TBH. I would expect a more authoritative opinion instead of rehashing what "experts say".

YOU are the security expert Brian, so stop writing like CNN Tech.

hulitu 11/10/2025||
> Shouldn't there be a comparison with TP-Link and all other brands available in-terms of security?

No. Regards, Cisco

paulnpace 11/10/2025||
I've largely given up on trying to secure networks for people when they just run overt compromises.

What does this really matter when everyone is running agentic AIs on all of their devices?

Installing "apps" that have access to everything on a device?

Those same "apps" record everything around the device and upload that to the "cloud"?

For the average user, security doesn't even matter any more. I used to say people are running around in plain text mode, but it looks like that has been degraded to broadcast mode.

mumber_typhoon 11/10/2025|
One more thing to note about TP-Link today is that they don't just abandon firmware updates but also switch chips and hardware.

For example, They will call some device Deco / Archer ABC with a Qualcomm chip that's latest and greatest. They might sell it for 499$ for example and then let reviewers do their thing to review these products everywhere with 5 stars. Great!

Six months or maybe a year down the road when the product starts getting traction as people start buying new WiFi standards like 6/6E/7 etc. they will swap out the chips inside and launch a v2 of that same product with either mediatek chips or a slower Qualcomm SOC. This affects performance and stability and it also drives down the pricing with cheaper hardware.

This has been done a lot with Deco units. Reviews are for original v1 hardware but what's being sold is a different hardware completely. Not only is this a firmware problem but keep in mind such practices really show lack of trust.

Great example of how to lose trust in a brand.

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