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Posted by doener 11 hours ago

Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller and Steam Frame(www.phoronix.com)
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miohtama 8 hours ago||
So no Half Life 3? (':
juris 7 hours ago||
Rumor has it that it’d be released with the VR set in 2026 ;)
embedding-shape 6 hours ago||
It'd be a good plan. Make HL3 a VR game since you built VR experience by making Alyx, take it to the next level by launching your own VR headset, everything is perfectly made together and HL3 launch would be as big if not bigger than GTA, and you optimize it for your own hardware.
qudat 6 hours ago|||
Wasn’t that Alyx?
accrual 5 hours ago||
Perhaps Alyx walked so HL3 could run.
attendant3446 5 hours ago||
They announced 3 devices. 3! HL3 confirmed :D
precompute 8 hours ago|||
It's a shame patent trolling killed the OG Steam Controller. But this one's got trackpads and seems like a decent substitute.
hinkley 6 hours ago||
I have the OG steam controller. I didn't realize it had turned into a collector's item.
gausswho 6 hours ago||
Indeed a massive shame. The case was ultimately thrown out but by then Valve had stopped production. I still boycott Corsair today over this.
sand500 3 hours ago||
When was it thrown out? It seems the ruling against Valve was upheld

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/court-upholds-jurys-decision-i...

bsimpson 5 hours ago||
phoronix is blog spam. This ought to be duped to one of the other posts on the front page.
dang 48 minutes ago|
Ok, we moved the Steam Machine comments to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903404,

... the Steam Frame comments to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903325,

... and the Steam Controller comments to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45905703.

Assuming I triaged them all correctly.

Edit: and what the hell, moved the Half Life jokes to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45908464.

phoronixrly 9 hours ago||
Source https://store.steampowered.com/sale/hardware
cadamsdotcom 8 hours ago|||
Looks exciting! It would be amazing if the headset turns out to be useful for coding without a monitor. Say, in the park.
p1necone 7 hours ago||
Being in the park kinda loses its lustre when you've got a headset strapped to your face - I'd prefer a laptop with a screen that's still visible in sunlight.
cadamsdotcom 6 hours ago|||
Yeah I’d go a sunglasses-like setup - preferably driven by my phone. But big tech companies have yet to take a shine to that use case.
thaumasiotes 6 hours ago|||
> I'd prefer a laptop with a screen that's still visible in sunlight.

I don't understand why Amazon worked so hard to replace their neutral gray Kindles with "Kindle PaperWhite".

Paper, the material, is so white that trying to read it in sunlight will hurt your eyes. Why would you want a white reading surface instead of a gray one?

seba_dos1 3 hours ago|||
The main shtick of Kindle Paperwhite, aside of the obvious ability to read in the dark, is not how white it is but rather how it can remove shadows when outside or in brightly lit rooms. You don't really notice this effect until you disable backlight and suddenly can notice the shadows cast by your fingers.
thaumasiotes 47 minutes ago||
> aside of the obvious ability to read in the dark

My Kindle Keyboard came with a case that hooked into it to draw power for a nice, orange booklight. It was a much better reading-in-bed experience than the Kindle Oasis with its uniform glow. :(

danudey 6 hours ago|||
It's not actually paper-white, though, thankfully. It's more just 'not as dingy gray'
z3t4 8 hours ago||
It's doable. But you need 8k per eye to read text comfortable. But what would you use for input?
cadamsdotcom 6 hours ago||
A compact keyboard and an accelerometer based mouse replacement. All wireless of course. There are a few devices on the market that’d fit the bill.
senectus1 5 hours ago|||
Not a single piece of footage with someone wearing glasses and the Steam Frame

I guess we get screwed over again :-(

vimredo 2 hours ago||
The LTT video on the Steam Frame mentions an optional spacer for glasses and that Valve is working on getting prescription lenses for the Steam Frame.
ixwt 5 hours ago||
I'm in the same boat. But the specs do mention "Eye Glasses Max Width 140mm"
senectus1 6 minutes ago||
oh i missed that. nice, I'm hopeful.
PaulKeeble 8 hours ago|||
Little disappointing its not got colour passthrough. I am not convinced this generation of headsets will really be the ones that AR breaks through but still its a bit disappointing and has been useful with the latest Quest headsets. Other than that it looks fairly solid.
wlesieutre 6 hours ago|
It was noted in some articles that the "expansion port" could hypothetically be used for a color passthrough module later. But I also read that the Index had a similar port and never did much of anything with it, so that may never happen.

Definitely a cost measure to not include color passthrough, I'm not in the market to replace my Quest 3S but I'm very curious to see what price they hit with this.

Nice that it has a microSD slot so you can buy the low storage on and not be stuck with 256 GB forever.

koakuma-chan 8 hours ago|||
It looks pretty bad on the photos.
mort96 7 hours ago||
I thought it looked pretty attractive? Small, understated, something that would fit in pretty much anywhere without clashing. It doesn't have anything resembling a "gaming" aesthetic, which is a huge plus in my book.
SparkBomb 5 hours ago|||
I have a Steam Link and the Original Steam controller. The manufacturing while perfectly functional isn't that high quality.

This looks similar. Kinda like a mid-ranged PC case quality.

koakuma-chan 6 hours ago|||
It doesn't have to be all gamer RGB, but, for me, it has to look well-designed, e.g., like Apple products. The Steam Machine looks fine, but the controller looks cheap and all the buttons seem too far away from each other, as if it's meant to be held by someone with large hands.
mort96 6 hours ago|||
Oh, I was just talking about the steam machine.

For a controller, I don't care how it looks at all. All that matters is how it feels.

branon 5 hours ago|||
Nothing really looks like Apple products except Apple products though, so you are locking yourself out of buying pretty much anything except Apple with this idiosyncrasy. Which I'm sure Apple is quite pleased about.
p1necone 7 hours ago|||
It does kinda look like a regular SFF PC case rather than a bespoke piece of hardware, but maybe they were going for that.
danudey 6 hours ago||
The biggest complaint about the PS5 is that it stood out too much. That's the one compelling point about the Xbox Series series designs - they don't look out of place in your entertainment centre.

This is the same - you can put it somewhere people can see it and it's not an eyesore.

p1necone 6 hours ago||
Yeah the PS5 definitely went too far in the other direction. Too many curves making it take up even more space than it needs to as well (although that could have been an intentional choice to stop people from putting things on top of it).
m463 8 hours ago||
is that good bad or bad bad?
iLoveOncall 8 hours ago||
Irrelevant bad. It's a gaming product, you're not expected to wear it in public so the look doesn't matter.
theoldgreybeard 6 hours ago||
"the look doesn't matter"

I think Sony would disagree:

We wanted to do something that was bold and daring almost. We wanted something forward facing and future facing, something for the 2020s [...] The PS5's design is meant to demonstrate Sony's belief that the technology inside and the games that run on it are as eye-catching as the outside you see [...] that the form factor of [...] the PS5 is meant to "grace" your living room.

The PlayStation sits in the living area of most homes, and we kind of felt it would be nice to provide a design that would really grace most living areas. That's what we've tried to do. And, you know, we think we've been successful in that.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-boss-explains-why-the...

gausswho 6 hours ago||
Sony's dead wrong here. You want what's eye-catching in your living room to match your other things or fade out of sight. This design is nondescript and you can get your own custom panels if you want.
ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago||
[dupe]

Steam Frame https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903325

Steam Machine https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903404

3327 9 hours ago||
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