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Posted by erohead 13 hours ago

Google will allow users to sideload Android apps without verification(android-developers.googleblog.com)
1051 points | 451 commentspage 6
chemicalchance 5 hours ago|
> Google will allow users to sideload Android apps without verification

Ford will allow drivers to carry passengers without verification.

Sounds silly, doesn't it?

pi-err 5 hours ago|
If 90% of passengers were scamming the drivers or hijacking the car for some nefarious purpose that affects other cars, you definitely wouldn't find that silly.
jwitthuhn 22 minutes ago||
I would think it is pretty silly if I needed some sort of verification to drive people I personally know around because other people were getting their car hijacked after choosing to pick up strangers they found on the highway.
cubefox 4 hours ago||
The current title of this submission is

> Google will allow users to sideload Android apps without verification

Which seems to be false. As far as I understand, Google still requires verification.

anonymousiam 11 hours ago||
"Based on this feedback and our ongoing conversations with the community, we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified. We are designing this flow specifically to resist coercion, ensuring that users aren't tricked into bypassing these safety checks while under pressure from a scammer. It will also include clear warnings to ensure users fully understand the risks involved, but ultimately, it puts the choice in their hands. We are gathering early feedback on the design of this feature now and will share more details in the coming months."

So they haven't actually changed anything yet, but they say that they will "in the coming months."

rbits 6 hours ago|
That's because developer verification outside of Google Play isn't required yet.
jamesbelchamber 4 hours ago||
..does Valve wanna make a phone any time soon?
seandoe 10 hours ago||
This is great news to me. I'm going to celebrate it. As evil as everyone thinks they are, they did the right thing here. Thanks google.
arunc 9 hours ago||
Southeast Asian scammers - they could've directly said from India/Pakistan.
999900000999 11 hours ago||
Ahh yes,the slow boiling continues.

So if I want to release a free android game my options are.

A: Hope Google doesn't change course again.

B: Give Google a copy of my apartment lease,

Would be too hard for them to ya know actually implement sandboxing which would prevent this.

Anything aside from full bootloader access means I'm renting my device.

Too late now though.

WorldPeas 9 hours ago|
I still remember when I could give my friends an exe of the stupid little games I made, worry free.

I guess that makes me a cybercriminal, doesn't it.

jonathanstrange 3 hours ago||
That's by far not good enough. Google's reasoning is principally flawed.

First of all, there is principally no good reason why adult people should be patronized by Google or other companies and kept from installing the software they want to install. Limitation of numbers just means that I cannot publish my .apk and let users install it freely. However, anyone who is allowed to smoke, drink alcohol, or get a motorcycle, should also be allowed to install whatever application they want. It's a matter of basic individual freedom.

Second, the majority of reasonable users cannot be restricted from using their device as they wish just because a small minority falls for scams. A minority of people also drink themselves to death, die in motorcycle accidents, or smoke. There is nothing wrong with taking risks and taking responsibility for one's own life. We don't need for-profit corporations to hold our hands.

Third, if they believed their own arguments, then they'd make certain functions such as intercepting SMS messages and installing a custom keyboard subject to stricter requirements with potential developer verification and keep the OS open and free otherwise. This would be a piece of cake since the technical infrastructure is already there on Android. The fact that they don't clearly indicates they're hypocrites and want to control users and developers, make 3rd party app stores harder or impossible, control which apps they "allow" as part of anti-competitive behavior, and possibly extract some extra cash from developers in the future.

It's a pity how private computing is destroyed and that's the reason we all have to use inferior web apps until browsers are closed down in the same way in the name of security theater.

ImHereToVote 6 hours ago||
We need Linux phones stat.
tauntz 5 hours ago|
That blog post really downplays the issue that people have with the verification requirement and is tone-deaf. The resistance to get Google's blessing for app distribution is definitely not limited to students and hobbyists - and I don't think that's even the biggest affected group.
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