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Posted by erohead 17 hours ago

Android developer verification: Early access starts(android-developers.googleblog.com)
1211 points | 547 commentspage 8
Metacelsus 16 hours ago|
Glad to see them being less evil.
Grimblewald 12 hours ago||
Taking 10 steps in the direction of evil, and taking 1 step back, is not something that should save you from the gallows.
a96 6 hours ago||
Especially when they're continuing on the next 10 steps ASAP.
gblargg 16 hours ago|||
So they can be less evil to more people rather than pushing people to a non-evil platform.
idle_zealot 16 hours ago||
What is the non-evil phone platform? Aftermarket Android ROMs?
pwg 15 hours ago||
Sadly, less evil is still evil.
maxlin 8 hours ago||
>This is why we announced this change early: to gather input and ensure our solutions are balanced.

Sounds like just trying to save face, they didn't have a language of "we're only _MAYBE_ stopping everyone from installing non-verified apps" back then. They were quite adamant.

But happy that they're dropping the craziest part of this in any case. Won't stop me from investigating Graphene OS and other options when getting my next handset though, the previous move surely caused a jolt in my interest.

constantcrying 8 hours ago||
>we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified.

This is exactly the right thing to do and the best possible outcome. Google is correct that arbitrary Software installation can be harmful to users, especially those with limited technical knowledge. At the same time there are many users who want to install software freely and should be able to do so.

The compromise of a clear and unambiguous warning of the potential dangers, which the user is then allowed to accept, seems very good and the right thing to do.

bilekas 14 hours ago||
Imagine you could do with your hardware what you wanted. Brave. Innovative. Revolutionary.

/Old man laughing at "cloud" that is my baremetal.

WorldPeas 13 hours ago|
I worry that the overton window has shifted so much after over a decade and a half of most downloads being mediated by "app stores" that most people don't realize or have the means to vocalize or understand what they're missing.
jamesbelchamber 8 hours ago||
..does Valve wanna make a phone any time soon?
DecentShoes 16 hours ago||
Now allow individuals to release apps again.
moi2388 11 hours ago||
Good job everybody, just don’t start complaining when your family members installed malware, their banking and health information is leaked, and you have to fix this for them.
DeathArrow 11 hours ago||
I can access any website or webapp without verification. I can install any app on my PC without verification.

I assume the results of my actions and I accept that if something bad is going to happen, it's my fault. I am fine with that.

I want the same kind of freedom on my phone, a device I own and I payed for with my own money. I am not smarter when using the PC and dumber when using the phone. I want to be able to opt out of verification and install whatever I want.

rbits 11 hours ago|
Don't know if I misunderstood your comment, but that's what the article is saying. You will be able to opt out of unverified app blocking.
Gormanu 3 hours ago||
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zb3 16 hours ago|
I have to admit I couldn't even understand this problem, because for me the "stock OS" is already unbearable and I'd simply never be able to use it - I've never used it for more than a hour..
asadm 16 hours ago||
i think your opinion is pretty dated.
add-sub-mul-div 16 hours ago|||
Ask yourself how relevant and interesting you'd find this comment if someone else had posted it.
zb3 16 hours ago||
I'd agree because I'd feel the same :)

As to relevance to the article - I'm not cheering that much because if Google made "stock OS" even worse then maybe more users would flock to LineageOS/GrapheneOS which would be a great thing and make it harder to push Play Integrity.

IlikeKitties 16 hours ago||
The issue is that of network effects. Making it harder to sideload for example f-droid makes the already small market for it even smaller, leading to less apps. It also forces people developing Apps that they don't want to reveal to be developing for completly valid reasons (Imagine developing a porn app in saudi arabia or an abortion support app in the USA) to validate against google aka the US Government.
zb3 16 hours ago||
I'm just presenting my exotic point of view - since that developer verification would only be needed to run apps on the "stock OS" (which I consider bad), then deliberately excluding it could promote using LineageOS/GrapheneOS which would be a good thing.

But of course I'm talking about non-commercial apps, but commercial app developers would already be on Google Play.