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Posted by DamnInteresting 6 hours ago

Loose wire leads to blackout, contact with Francis Scott Key bridge(www.ntsb.gov)
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crote 4 hours ago|
I strongly recommend watching/reading the entire report, or the summary by Sal Mercogliano of What's Going On In Shipping [0].

Yes, the loose wire was the immediate cause, but there was far more going wrong here. For example:

- The transformer switchover was set to manual rather than automatic, so it didn't automatically fail over to the backup transformer.

- The crew did not routinely train transformer switchover procedures.

- The two generators were both using a single non-redundant fuel pump (which was never intended to supply fuel to the generators!), which did not automatically restart after power was restored.

- The main engine automatically shut down when the primary coolant pump lost power, rather than using an emergency water supply or letting it overheat.

- The backup generator did not come online in time.

It's a classic Swiss Cheese model. A lot of things had to go wrong for this accident to happen. Focusing on that one wire isn't going to solve all the other issues. Wires, just like all other parts, will occasionally fail. One wire failure should never have caused an incident of this magnitude. Sure, there should probably be slightly better procedures for checking the wiring, but next time it'll be a failed sensor, actuator, or controller board.

If we don't focus on providing and ensuring a defense-in-depth, we will sooner or later see another incident like this.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znWl_TuUPp0

Aurornis 4 hours ago||
Thanks for the summary for those of us who can't watch video right now.

There are so many layers of failures that it makes you wonder how many other operations on those ships are only working because those fallbacks, automatic switchovers, emergency supplies, and backup systems save the day. We only see the results when all of them fail and the failure happens to result in some external problem that means we all notice.

arjie 4 hours ago|||
It seems to just be standard "normalization of deviance" to use the language of safety engineering. You have 5 layers of fallbacks, so over time skipping any of the middle layers doesn't really have anything fail. So in time you end up with a true safety factor equal only to the last layer. Then that fails and looking back "everything had to go wrong".

As Sidney Dekker (of Understanding Human Error fame) says: Murphy's Law is wrong - everything that can go wrong will go right. The problem arises from the operators all assuming that it will keep going right.

I remember reading somewhere that part of Qantas's safety record came from the fact that at one time they had the highest number of minor issues. In some sense, you want your error detection curve to be smooth: as you get closer to catastrophe, your warnings should get more severe. On this ship, it appeared everything was A-OK till it bonked a bridge.

bombcar 3 hours ago||
This is the most pertinent thing to learn from these NTSB crash investigations - it's not what went wrong at the final disaster, but all the things that went wrong that didn't detect that they were down to one layer of defense.

Your car engaging auto brake to prevent a collision shouldn't be a "whew, glad that didn't happen" and more a "oh shit, I need to work on paying attention more."

dmurray 2 hours ago||
Why then does the NTSB point blame so much at the single wiring issue? Shouldn't they have the context to point to the 5 things that went wrong in the Swiss cheese and not pat themselves on the back with having found the almost-irrelevant detail of

> Our investigators routinely accomplish the impossible, and this investigation is no different...Finding this single wire was like hunting for a loose rivet on the Eiffel Tower.

In the software world, if I had an application that failed when a single DNS query failed, I wouldn't be pointing the blame at DNS and conducting a deep dive into why this particular query timed out. I'd be asking why a single failure was capable of taking down the app for hundreds or thousands of other users.

plorg 1 hour ago|||
That seems like a difference between the report and the press release. I'm sure it doesn't help that the current administration likes quick, pat answers.

The YouTube animation they published notes that this also wasn't just one wire - they found many wires on the ship that were terminated and labeled in the same (incorrect) way, which points to an error at the ship builder and potentially a lack of adequate documentation or training materials from the equipment manufacturer, which is why WAGO received mention and notice.

bombcar 48 minutes ago||
It’s also immediately actionable and other similar ships can investigate their wires
toast0 1 hour ago|||
The faulty wire is the root cause. If it didn't trigger the sequence of events, all of the other things wouldn't have happened. And it's kind of a tricky thing to find, so that's an exciting find.

The flushing pump not restarting when power resumed did also cause a blackout in port the day before the incident. But you know, looking into why you always have two blackouts when you have one is something anybody could do; open the main system breaker, let the crew restore it and that flushing pump will likely fail in the same way every time... but figuring out why and how the breaker opened is neat, when it's not something obvious.

crote 4 hours ago||||
Oh, it gets even worse!

The NTSB also had some comments on the ship's equivalent of a black box. Turns out it was impossible to download the data while it was still inside the ship, the manufacturer's software was awful and the various agencies had a group chat to share 3rd party software(!), the software exported thousands of separate files, audio tracks were mixed to the point of being nearly unusable, and the black box stopped recording some metrics after power loss "because it wasn't required to" - despite the data still being available.

At least they didn't have anything negative to say about the crew: they reacted timely and adequately - they just didn't stand a chance.

dboreham 29 minutes ago||||
Also the zeroth failure mode: someone built a bridge that will collapse if any of the many many large ships that sail beneath it can't steer itself with high precision.
renhanxue 3 hours ago|||
The fuel pump not automatically restarting on power loss may actually have been an intentional safety feature to prevent scenarios like pumping fuel into a fire in or around the generators. Still part of the Swiss cheese model, of course.
crote 3 hours ago||
It wasn't. They were feeding generators 1 & 2 with the pump intended for flushing the lines while switching between different fuel types.

The regular fuel pumps were set up to automatically restart, which is why a set of them came online to feed generator 3 (which automatically spinned up after 1 & 2 failed, and wasn't tied to the fuel-line-flushing pump) after the second blackout.

ChrisMarshallNY 3 hours ago|||
I have found that 99% of all network problems are bad wires.

I remember that the IT guys at my old company, used to immediately throw out every ethernet cable, and replace them with ones right out of the bag; first thing.

But these ships tend to be houses of cards. They are not taken care of properly, and run on a shoestring budget. Many of them look like floating wrecks.

gerdesj 1 hour ago|||
If I see a RJ45 plug with a broken locking thingie, or bare wires (not just bare copper - any internal wire), I chop the plug off.

If I come across a CATx (solid core) cable being used as a really long patch lead then I lose my shit or perhaps get a backbox and face plate and modules out along with a POST tool.

I don't look after floating fires.

potato3732842 1 hour ago||||
If I had a nickle for every time someone clobbered some critical connectivity with an ill-advised switch configuration I wouldn't have to work for a living.

And the physical layer issues I do see are related to ham fisted people doing unrelated work in the cage.

Actual failures are pretty damn rare.

jmonty900 2 hours ago|||
I recently had a home network outage. The last thing I tested was the in-wall wiring because I just didn't think that would be the cause. It was. Wiring fails!
kfarr 2 hours ago|||
Another case study to add to the maritime chapter of this timeless classic: https://www.amazon.com/Normal-Accidents-Living-High-Risk-Tec...

Like you said (and illustrated well in the book) it's never just 1 thing, these incidents happen when multiple systems interact and often reflect a the disinvestment in comprehensive safety schemes.

pstuart 4 hours ago|||
Hopefully the lesson from this will be received by operators: it's way cheaper to invest in personnel, training, and maintenance than to let the shit hit the fan.
stackskipton 4 hours ago||
Why? It's cost them 100M (https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/us-reaches-settlemen...) but rebuilding the bridge is going to be 5.2Billion so if gundecking all this maintenance for 20+ years has saved more then 100M, they will do it again.
xp84 3 hours ago|||
From your article - this answered a question I had:

> The settlement does not include any damages for the reconstruction of the Francis Scott Key Bridge. The State of Maryland built, owned, maintained, and operated the bridge, and attorneys on the state’s behalf filed their own claim for those damages. Pursuant to the governing regulation, funds recovered by the State of Maryland for reconstruction of the bridge will be used to reduce the project costs paid for in the first instance by federal tax dollars.

Barbing 56 minutes ago||
So was the bridge self-insured?
toast0 4 hours ago||||
The vessel owner may possibly be able to recover some of that from the manufacturer, as the wiring was almost certainly a manufacturing error, and maybe some of the configurations that continued the blackout were manufacturer choices as well.
potato3732842 1 hour ago||
At the end of the day we all just pay for it in terms of insurance costs priced into our goods.
genter 36 minutes ago||
But it's important to "punish" (via punitive fines) the right people, so that they will put some effort into not making that mistake again.
stevenjgarner 3 hours ago||||
Isn't there a big liability insurance payout on this towards the 5.2 Billion, and if so won't the insurer be more motivated to mandate compliance?
lazide 4 hours ago|||
Actually, to be even more cynical….

If everyone saved $100M by doing this and it only cost one shipper $100M, then of course everyone else would do it and just hope they aren’t the one who has bad enough luck to hit the bridge.

And statistically, almost all of them will be okay!

FridayoLeary 1 hour ago|||
Just insane how much criminal negligence went on. Even boeing hardly comes close. What needs to change is obviously a major review of how ships are allowed to operate near bridges and other infrastructure. And far stricter safety standards like aircraft face.
p3rls 3 hours ago||
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psunavy03 5 hours ago||
Although I was never named to a mishap board, my experience in my prior career in aviation is that the proper way to look at things like this is that while it is valuable to identify and try to fix the ultimate root cause of the mishap, it's also important to keep in mind what we called the "Swiss cheese model."

Basically, the line of causation of the mishap has to pass through a metaphorical block of Swiss cheese, and a mishap only occurs if all the holes in the cheese line up. Otherwise, something happens (planned or otherwise) that allows you to dodge the bullet this time.

Meaning a) it's important to identify places where firebreaks and redundancies can be put in place to guard against failures further upstream, and b) it's important to recognize times when you had a near-miss, and still fix those root causes as well.

Which is why the "retrospectives are useless" crowd spins me up so badly.

drivers99 5 hours ago||
> it's important to recognize times when you had a near-miss, and still fix those root causes as well.

I mentioned this principal to the traffic engineer when someone almost crashed into me because of a large sign that blocked their view. The engineer looked into it and said the sight lines were within spec, but just barely, so they weren't going to do anything about it. Technically the person who almost hit me could have pulled up to where they had a good view, and looked both ways as they were supposed to, but that is relying on one layer of the cheese to fix a hole in another, to use your analogy.

kennethrc 5 hours ago|||
Likewise with decorative hedges and other gardenwork; your post brought to mind this one hotel I stay regularly where a hedge is high enough and close enough to the exit that you have to nearly pull into the street to see if there's oncoming cars. I've mentioned to the FD that it's gonna get someone hurt one day, yet they've done nothing about it for years now.
avidiax 4 hours ago||
Send certified letters to the owner of the hedge and whatever government agency would enforce rules about road visibility. That puts them "on notice" legally, so that they can be held accountable for not enforcing their rules or taking precautions.
crote 4 hours ago||
The problem is that they are legally doing nothing wrong. Everything is done according to the rules, so they can't be held accountable for not following them. After all, they are taking all reasonable precautions, what more could be expected of them?

The fact that the situation on the ground isn't safe in practice is irrelevant to the law. Legally the hedge is doing everything, so the blame falls on the driver. At best a "tragic accident" will result in a "recommendation" to whatever board is responsible for the rules to review them.

bombcar 3 hours ago||
All that applies for criminal cases, but if a civil lawsuit is started and evidence is presented to the jury that the parties being sued had been warned repeatedly that it would eventually occur, it can be quite spicy.

Which is why if you want to be a bastard, you send it to the owners, the city, and both their insurance agencies.

ahmeneeroe-v2 3 hours ago||
This is stupid. Unless you happen to be the one that crashes it won't be a factor at all.
thaumasiotes 55 minutes ago|||
Well, it could be; you can watch out for accidents at that intersection and offer to support a case arising from one.

If your goal is to get the intersection fixed, this is a reasonable thing to do.

bombcar 50 minutes ago|||
Discovery’s a bitch which is why they settle.
Mawr 45 minutes ago||||
To be fair, there is no way to fix this in the general case—large vehicles and other objects may obstruct your view also. Therefore, you have to learn to be cognisant of line-of-sight blockers and to deal with them anyway. So for a not-terrible driver, the only problem that this presents is that they have to slow down. Not ideal, but not a safety issue per se.

That we allow terrible drivers to drive is another matter...

loeg 2 hours ago|||
People love to rag on Software Engineers for not being "real" engineers, whatever that means, but American "Traffic Engineers" are by far the bigger joke of a profession. No interest in defense in depth, safety, or tradeoffs. Only "maximize vehicular traffic flow speed."
windows_hater_7 50 minutes ago||
In this case, being a "traffic engineer" with the ability to sign engineering plans means graduating from an ABET-accredited engineering program, passing both the Fundamentals of Engineering exam and the Principles & Practice of Engineering exam, being licensed as a professional engineer, and passing the Professional Traffic Operations Engineer exam. I think they do a little more than "maximize vehicular traffic flow."
Aurornis 4 hours ago|||
> Which is why the "retrospectives are useless" crowd spins me up so badly.

When I see complaints about retrospectives from software devs they're usually about agile or scrum retrospective meetings, which have evolved to be performative routines. They're done every sprint (or week, if you're unlucky) and even if nothing happens the whole team might have to sit for an hour and come up with things to say to fill the air.

In software, the analysis following a mishap is usually called a post-mortem. I haven't seen many complaints about those have no value. Those are usually highly appreciated. Thought some times the "blameless post-mortem" people take the term a little too literally and try to avoid exploring useful failures if they might cause uncomfortable conversations about individuals making mistakes or even dropping the ball.

potato3732842 1 hour ago|||
>When I see complaints about retrospectives from software devs they're usually about agile or scrum retrospective meetings, which have evolved to be performative routines.

You mean to tell me that this comment section where we spew buzzwords and reference the same tropes we do for every "disaster" isn't performative.

burnstek 2 hours ago||||
Post mortems are absolutely key in creating process improvements. If you think about an organization's most effective processes, they are likely just representations of years of fixed errors.

Regarding blamelessness, I think it was W. Edwards Deming who emphasized the importance of blaming process over people, which is always preferable, but its critical for individuals to at least be aware of their role in the problem.

xp84 3 hours ago|||
Agree. I am obligated to run those retrospectives and the SNR is very poor.

It is nice though (as long as there isn't anyone in there that the team is afraid to be honest in front of), when people can vent about something that has been pissing them off, so that I as their manager know how they feel. But that happens only about 15-20% of the time. The rest is meaningless tripe like "Glad Project X is done" and "$TECHNOLOGY sucks" and "Good job to Bob and Susan for resolving the issue with the Acme account"

astrocat 5 hours ago|||
this is essentially the gist of https://how.complexsystems.fail which has been circulating more with discussions of the recent AWS/Azure/Cloudflare outages.
pugworthy 3 hours ago|||
> All the holes in the cheese line up...

I absolutely heard that in Hoover's voice.

Is there an equivalent to YouTube's Pilot Debrief or other similar channels but for ships?

https://www.youtube.com/@pilot-debrief

stackskipton 5 hours ago|||
>Which is why the "retrospectives are useless" crowd spins me up so badly.

As Ops person, I've said that before when talking about software and it's mainly because most companies will refuse to listen to the lessons inside of them so why am I wasting time doing this?

To put it aviation terms, I'll write up something being like (Numbers made up) "Hey, V1 for Hornet loaded at 49000 pounds needs to be 160 knots so it needs 10000 feet for takeoff" Well, Sales team comes back and says NAS Norfolk is only 8700ft and customer demands 49000+ loads, we are not losing revenue so quiet Ops nerd!

Then 49000+ Hornet loses an engine, overruns the runway, the fireball I'd said would happen, happens and everyone is SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELL YOU this is happening.

Except it's software and not aircraft and loss was just some money, maybe, so no one really cares.

thaumasiotes 4 hours ago||
> Basically, the line of causation of the mishap has to pass through a metaphorical block of Swiss cheese, and a mishap only occurs if all the holes in the cheese line up.

The metaphor relies on you mixing and matching some different batches of presliced Swiss cheese. In a single block, the holes in the cheese are guaranteed to line up, because they are two-dimensional cross sections of three-dimensional gas bubbles. The odds of a hole in one slice of Swiss cheese lining up with another hole in the following slice are very similar to the odds of one step in a staircase being followed by another step.

psunavy03 3 hours ago||
And there's the archetypal comment on technology-based social media that is simultaneously technically correct and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand.
mrguyorama 2 hours ago||
Actually the pedantry is meaningful!

You cannot create a swiss cheese safety model with correlated errors, same as how the metaphor fails if the slices all come from the same block of swiss cheese!

You have to ensure your holes come from different processes and systems! You have to ensure your swiss cheese holes come from different blocks of cheese!

tialaramex 5 hours ago||
Note that "Don't make mistakes" is no more actionable for maintenance of a huge cargo ship than for your 10MLoC software project. A successful safety strategy must assume there will be mistakes and deliver safe outcomes nevertheless.
airstrike 2 hours ago||
Only tangentially related but the debate over whether the Francis Scott Key bridge is or was a bridge got so heated on Wikipedia that the page had to be protected, and I finally have a reason for bringing this up

Edit wars aside, it's a nice philosophical question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Scott_Key_Bridge_(Balt...

DamnInteresting 6 hours ago||
Video explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7PJoxaMZg
bmelton 5 hours ago|
That was super helpful. I was assuming from skimming the text description that it was a failed crimp

A lot of people wildly under-crimp things, but marine vessels not only have nuanced wire requirements, but more stringent crimping requirements that the field at large frustratingly refuses to adhere to despite ABYC and other codes insisting on it

Aurornis 5 hours ago||
> A lot of people wildly under-crimp things

The good tools will crimp to the proper pressure and make it obvious when it has happened.

Unfortunately the good tools aren't cheap. Even when they are used, some techs will substitute their own ideas of how a crimp should be made when nobody is watching them.

DannyBee 3 hours ago||
While the US is still very manual at panel building, Europe is not.

So outside of waiting time, I can go from eplan to "send me precrimped and labeled wires that were cut, crimped, and labeled by machine and automatically tested to spec" because this now exists as a service accessible even to random folks.

It is not even expensive.

fabian2k 5 hours ago||
The big problem was that they didn't have the actual fuel pumps running but were using a different pump that was never intended to fulfill this role. And this pump stays off if the power fails for any reason.

The bad contact with the wire was just the trigger, that should have been recoverable had the regular fuel pumps been running.

buildsjets 5 hours ago||
In a well engineered control system, any single failure will not result in a loss of control over the system.

Was a FMECA (Failure Mode, Effects, and Criticality Analysis) performed on the design prior to implementation in order to find the single points of failure, and identify and mitigate their system level effects?

Evidence at hand suggests "No."

CGMthrowaway 5 hours ago||
"Catastrophe requires multiple failures – single point failures are not enough. The array of defenses works. System operations are generally successful. Overt catastrophic failure occurs when small, apparently innocuous failures join to create opportunity for a systemic accident. Each of these small failures is necessary to cause catastrophe but only the combination is sufficient to permit failure. Put another way, there are many more failure opportunities than overt system accidents. Most initial failure trajectories are blocked by designed system safety components. Trajectories that reach the operational level are mostly blocked, usually by practitioners."

https://how.complexsystems.fail/#3

Aurornis 4 hours ago|||
> In a well engineered control system, any single failure will not result in a loss of control over the system

That's true in this case, as well. There was a long cascade of failures including an automatic switchover that had been disabled and set to manual mode.

The headlines about a loose wire are the media's way of reducing it to an understandable headline.

jojobas 5 hours ago||
Most cargo ships have a single main engine with plenty of backup-less failure points. They are sort of engineered so these failures can't happen suddenly but you can help yourself to a bunch of videos on how substandard fuel and parts shortages cause week-long poweroffs in a middle of the ocean.
LeifCarrotson 3 hours ago||
System designers and regulators are aware that the main engine is a single point of failure, but they generally consider loss of main engine power to not be an immediate emergency. There are redundant systems to retain electrical and hydraulic power, and losing motive power isn't generally an instant emergency. Power and steering together is an emergency, yes, and steering is degraded without power, but had they still been able to use the rudder they wouldn't have hit the bridge.
jojobas 2 hours ago||
Steering without power at 8 knots would be pretty inefficient (and was - they tried to steer as the power came back). Loss of power in ports, narrow straits etc is recognized as a major issue which is why an engineer and ETO must be in the engine control room during such passages.
caminanteblanco 2 hours ago||
Here's the attached report, it has a lot of additional helpful information: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/Board%20Summar...
caminanteblanco 2 hours ago||
>The seven highway workers and inspector on the Key Bridge at the time were not notified of the Dali’s emergency situation before the bridge collapsed. We found that, had they been notified about the same time the MDTA Police officers were told to block vehicular traffic, the highway workers may have had sufficient time to drive to a portion of the bridge that did not collapse. Further, we found that effective and immediate communication to evacuate the bridge during an emergency is critical to ensuring the safety of bridge workers.
jtokoph 5 hours ago|
It’s been noted that automatic failover systems did not kick in due to shortcuts being taken by the company: https://youtu.be/znWl_TuUPp0
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