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Posted by thewebguyd 11/19/2025

Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash(www.windowscentral.com)
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alsetmusic 11/20/2025|
This is pretty damning: [0] Talking to Windows’ Copilot AI makes a computer feel incompetent

0: https://www.theverge.com/report/822443/microsoft-windows-cop...

w_for_wumbo 11/20/2025||
We need to see actual improvements to our day to day lives if we want to see support for AI. At the moment, people are seeing improvements in technology, but they're feeling the decline of the welfare of those around them, they're feeling food insecurity, they're feeling uncertain about job security.
nik282000 11/20/2025|
"AI" is not a machine for improving the lives of people, it's a tool for consolidating power and wealth at the top. Declining welfare and access to basic human needs shows that decision makers are getting better at min/maxing the economy.
willis936 11/20/2025||
The CEO asks: if they have no bread then why don't they eat cake?
rexpop 11/21/2025||
Insofar as "All ambiguity is resolved by practitioners at the sharp end of the system", a tool that resolves ambiguity higher up the org chart is going to be less impressive to those of us who resolve ambiguity day in and day out. What I mean to say, is that we know our way around the tools and this is why we're not impressed when somebody else uses AI to find their way around the tools.
sublinear 11/21/2025||
This is very well said. The next phase is these "leaders" realizing all that still isn't enough to do meaningful work. Work comes from a deliberate familiarity with tools woven in with the full understanding of the problem. Likewise, a full understanding of the problem comes from familiarity with what's possible.

Anyone who has successfully completed a self-motivated project all on their own knows that the problem definition changes when the knowledge gaps go away. Sometimes even entire classes of solutions become pointless and their value goes from seemingly huge to nothing at all.

If we look into the past it's the difference between wanting to selfishly reconfigure the earth with physics-defying and godlike brute force creating massively worse and life-threatening problems... versus just building the shelter and infrastructure we now consider obvious and far less silly with smarter technology than just brute force and magic.

That's what I think is going to happen to all this pointless scaffolding currently being called "AI". It's a category of software that is completely unnecessary in a world where people are more experienced and better educated.

joshribakoff 11/21/2025||
There are some potential biases here.

Of course it is unimpressive when someone does something familiar to you, that is subjective. That same thing could be framed as impressive, to someone else, such as the person who is now able to do the unfamiliar as if it is familiar.

The other bias would be to assume that there aren’t unfamiliar things (you don’t know every tool every made, therefore you may potentially benefit from using AI to help with learning new tools).

Another bias is to assume AI is only good for learning something unfamiliar. There are ways to contain generative coding that scale, in some contexts. Likewise there’s probably use cases even for power users, like organizing messy desktop icons into semantic clusters (automating tedious tasks), summarizing running processes, limiting engagement with brain rot, etc.

franktankbank 11/21/2025||
> organizing messy desktop icons into semantic clusters

stunning stuff

anovikov 11/21/2025||
Because people have developed "AI blindness" by now much like they learnt to ignore ad banners 20 years ago and then learned to ignore ANY images on sites when they all got to be AI-generated 2-3 years ago. "AI" is now just a bullshit, meaningless term squeezed in everywhere merely to ask for money for nothing.

This wave of idiocy is going to abate soon. Hopefully.

muststopmyths 11/20/2025||
This genius probably doesn't use Windows as his daily driver so of course he's not bothered by it.
jaccola 11/21/2025||
VR is just as impressive. Doesn't mean I want my OS to be VR-only going forward.
preisschild 11/21/2025|
VR actually helps me get more exercise (Beat Saber), so I'd definitely call it more impressive :P
djent 11/19/2025||
People think Windows sucks. People think AI sucks. Combine the two, ??? Still sucks
tartoran 11/22/2025|
Windows sucks + AI -> Windows 11 is an unusable mess.
kotaKat 11/19/2025||
Oh, I’m a “cynic” because I’m upset at Microsoft continuing to violate my consent over and over again, huh.

Wonder if he calls any of his rejected dates a “cynic” because they said no to him, too.

estimator7292 11/19/2025|
I'd bet good money that he thinks all his exes are "crazy"
perryizgr8 11/20/2025||
Microsoft is a multi-trillion dollar company. Is it too much to ask for them to develop and maintain two separate Windows flavors with different focus?

1. Windows 11 - keep doing what they are doing, add AI, ads, all sorts of guardrails, whatever the 80% of users need

2. Windows 11 Enthusiast - Bring back Win 2000 theme, no guardrails, best-in-class dev experience, hyper-optimised for gaming, no AI, no ads

I would pay significantly more for the special version that I did for my Win 11 pro copy.

ls-a 11/21/2025|
Most CEOs nowadays should be replaced asap
red-iron-pine 11/21/2025|
Aarguably one of the more reasonable usecases for LLMs
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