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Posted by throwaway270925 11/19/2025

Gaming on Linux has never been more approachable(www.theverge.com)
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MegaThorx 11/20/2025|
About two months ago, I switched from Windows to Chrome OS, and I haven't missed Windows at all. The only thing that needed some adjustment was my audio setup. I have virtual channels for the system, music, chat, and games. These are then mapped to my Rodecaster Pro II. With Pipewire, this setup was not too difficult and works reliably. Gaming works perfectly fine. The only application I miss is ShareX for taking screenshots. I still use my old Windows PC for gaming with anti-cheat software via Moonlight and Sunshine, and it works perfectly.
Already__Taken 11/20/2025|
imo everyone needs to try ChromeOS for the OOBE and living with sleep & instant reboot updates. Windows is a nightmare.

it's made me want to get into core boot and find Linux laptop hardware that hums along.

Venn1 11/20/2025||
This week we shut the doors on our Linux gaming podcast that has been running continuously for the past 13 years. No fuss, no drama, but with the announcement of Steam Machine II (we also covered the origianl launch) it just seemed time. Proton has evolved to the point most things work out of the box. Nobody is bothering with native and it's gotten difficuls to find things to cover.

It really feels like evertying is ligned up for the year of Linux in the Living room and yeah, it's really good to see.

dgunay 11/20/2025||
I've been gaming on Linux exclusively for the last few years. Problems with games are few and far between these days.

I've only had to fully reinstall once every ~2 years or so, and it's usually due to some problem with my DE/system not booting that I can't be fucked to troubleshoot. That's mostly my fault for running GNOME on a rolling distro. I just back up my home dir to the storage drive and I'm back up and running in less than an hour. Other than that, it just continues to work and I can be reasonably assured that if I don't touch it, it'll be fine.

molave 11/19/2025||
Changed from Windows 10 to an Ubuntu with beefy specs. When I saw firsthand the improvement of the user experience, I felt the year of the Linux desktop is nigh.
ruined 11/19/2025||
>I’m going to install CachyOS, an Arch-based distro optimized for gaming on modern hardware, with support for cutting-edge CPUs and GPUs and an allegedly easy setup.

oh no

oompydoompy74 11/19/2025|
I don’t understand this reaction. It’s an immutable distro and is very similar to SteamOS. It’s very hard to break and dead simple to maintain. You will likely install apps via Flatpak and never have to touch the Arch repos.
Vinnl 11/20/2025||
I think you're thinking of Bazzite. Which indeed would probably have been an excellent fit for a gaming-focused beginner for the reasons you mentioned.
tonymet 11/19/2025||
Any technical minds care to explain how the "agentic Windows" actually functions?

Based on the marketing it seems to run a sandboxed copilot instance that can impersonate the user to take actions, with their permission?

Something like "hey copilot install Putty"? and it does it?

I can relate to the reluctance to adopt AI features into the OS -- but I would also like to understand how they work and any utility they might provide.

ACCount37 11/19/2025||
"How it actually functions" is too much of a moving target. The book of "best practices for building AI agent functionality into your OS" is still being written. But "sandboxed envs for AI to do things in" is one approach MS is currently trying for.

I agree that a "good" implementation of agentic AI can have a lot of benefits, to casual users and power users both. But do I have any trust in Microsoft being the company to ship a "good" implementation? Hell no.

Windows has been getting more and more user hostile for years now, to casual users and power users both. If there's anyone at Microsoft who still cares about good UX, they sure don't have any decision-making power. And getting AI integration right is as much a UX issue as it is a foundation model issue or an integration hook issue.

thewebguyd 11/19/2025||
That's what I understand. It basically spins up a windows VM, you grant it access to specific files or folders, and it runs the actions in the VM.

From the MS support doc:

> "An agent workspace is a separate, contained space in Windows where you can grant agents access to your apps and files so they can complete tasks for you in the background while you continue to use your device. Each agent operates using its own account, distinct from your personal user account. This dedicated agent account establishes clear boundaries between agent activity and your own, enabling scoped authorization and runtime isolation. As a result, you can delegate tasks to agents while retaining full control, visibility into agent actions, and the ability to manage access at any time."

MS showed a little bit of something like it at Ignite yesterday, but for enterprise automations, the AI spun up a Windows 365 instance, did some stuff on the web, then disposed of it when it was done.

tonymet 11/19/2025||
thanks for explaining that. I could see some value and also tremendous risk.

My concern is that the Windows Credential itself doesn’t have a ton of value (opening windows apps) but the browser cookie jar (e..g Edge or Chrome) , which the Credential unlocks, has tremendous value — and threats.

The core problem is lack of granularity in permissions. If you allow the agent to do browser activities as your user, you can’t control which cookie / scope it will take action on.

You might say “buy me chips” and it instead logs into your Fidelity account and buys $100k worth of stock.

Let’s see how they figure out the authorization model.

issafram 11/19/2025||
Installing a working Nvidia driver was a nightmare for me. And this was on a very recent version of Ubuntu.

I don't know if I would use the word approachable

jdpage 11/19/2025||
Fedora makes it pretty approachable, and some distros (e.g. Nobara, Bazzite) just straight-up ship the driver.

IMHO, stuff is moving fast enough in the Linux gaming world that any distro built around taking its time to update things (i.e. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint) is liable to be a bad time. Anecdotally, I've found that redirecting new users interested in gaming away from those distros has dramatically improved their satisfaction.

aidenn0 11/19/2025|||
Graphics drivers are near the top of my list of issues I've had with Ubuntu. I've been using Linux for well over 20 years and Ubuntu (and to a large degree, other Debian derivatives) is just such a pain in the ass to install and configure. It is superficially a good UX in the sense that if you can somehow manage to stay on the happy path, it's smooth, but go an inch off of that and you're in for a world of pain.
pessimizer 11/19/2025||
Please don't install some weird trendy distro. I'm starting to think that Microsoft is sponsoring them just to make sure that people come running back to Windows, complaining, saying "not ready for prime time." Just install Debian. Stable. Or Mint or even Ubuntu. Move over to something bizarre when you know why you want it.
WD-42 11/19/2025||
People want to game. Telling them to install Debian stable is not going to end well. There's a reason why these "weird" gaming distros are popular, and it's not because they are making people run back to Windows - quite the opposite.
rabf 11/20/2025|||
The secret for a reasonable linux distro for most people is LTS Kernel + Latest packages. Most people want the latest versions of whatever software they use that will often include new features and lots bugfixes. The only time you really need a new kernel is for to support cutting edge hardware.

Many of the Arch or Fedora derivatives fit this paradigm well.

perihelions 11/19/2025|||
Occam's distro-hopper? Don't attribute to malice, what's easily explained by people chasing after trendy new things.
morshu9001 11/20/2025||
And DEs. MS taking no prisoners, meanwhile Linux community squabbling over which button layout is best.
theoldgreybeard 11/20/2025||
Install Ubuntu.

Enable the proprietary drivers if you have Nvidia graphics during the install.

Install system updates when the pop up appears on first boot.

Install Steam from the Ubuntu App Center.

Open Steam, install a game and play it. Most of them will work without issue unless it has invasive kernel anti-cheat.

The install-to-game time on Linux is actually substantially lower than it is on Windows now.

jokoon 11/20/2025|
I don't want to believe it until it happens.

NVIDIA and AMD can decide to undermine it if Linux doesn't yield enough profits for them.

Even if only one of them undermines linux, linux gaming might have trouble progressing and game developers might just ignore Linux gaming.

Microsoft could also undermine it if they really wanted.

bigyabai 11/20/2025||
> NVIDIA and AMD can decide to undermine it if Linux doesn't yield enough profits for them.

Can you elaborate what you mean, here? AMD has Mesa drivers for Vulkan 1.2+ compliance; their GPUs will support DXVK and Proton until the hardware breaks, even if they quit today. Nvidia's situation is slightly precarious, but the community has Nouveau and NOVA as hedged bets against them going rogue.

And I can't see why they would ever go rogue - supporting Proton is so easy that many manufacturers do it by accident. Remember, even Apple Silicon supports DXVK on Asahi, despite Apple neither documenting their GPU, writing Vulkan drivers for it or designing their raster hardware around open standards. I'd be shocked if AMD or Nvidia managed to make a card that runs DirectX but refuses OpenGL and Vulkan bytecode in any form.

npteljes 11/20/2025||
This is exactly why Valve's work is important with SteamOS. The more SteamOS devices people use, the more of a viable market they are, and so, a direct incentive is born, against locking games out of Linux.

Personally, I don't think it will get worse than it is now. Some games are locked to some platforms, be that Windows, PS5 or Switch, and many great games can be enjoyed in Linux.

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