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Posted by surprisetalk 12/2/2025

Gundam is just the same as Jane Austen but happens to include giant mech suits(eli.li)
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ErroneousBosh 12/10/2025|
Avatar is Pocahontas repainted. Fight me.
btown 12/10/2025||
This was an incredibly mainstream meme, back in the day! https://mattbateman.net/writing/avatar-pocahontas.php describes his contribution to the comparison.
an0malous 12/10/2025|||
And Pocahontas is Fern Gully repainted
adrian_b 12/10/2025|||
Actually, when I saw the first Avatar, I thought that it was much closer to the "Treasure of Silver Lake" ("Der Schatz im Silbersee") by Karl May, combined with many scenes from the earlier novels of Karl May.

Many characters of that series of Karl May novels have a direct mapping, e.g.:

Old Shatterhand => Jake Sully

Winnetou => Neytiri (gender swapped)

tamed mustang => tamed flying dragon

and many others.

neogodless 12/10/2025|||
Fern Gully was 1992, three years before Pocahontas.
redwall_hp 12/10/2025|||
I believe the comment I saw, back when the first one came out, was "PocaHalo."

The second one developed its own story much better.

m4rtink 12/10/2025|||
And has humans doing Factorio as well as ecranoplans - ideal. :-)
glitchc 12/10/2025|||
So that's where Master "Chief" comes from!

... I'll see myself out.

LargeWu 12/10/2025|||
I mean, Avatar is a pretty on-the-nose allegory for the decimation of American Indian tribes and western colonization. I don't think this is at all a controversial take.
jimbokun 12/10/2025|||
Or Lawrence of Arabia or…
zdragnar 12/10/2025|||
Nah, Avatar is Dances With Wolves
shawn_w 12/10/2025||
Dances With Smurfs was a common comparison at the time.
MathMonkeyMan 12/11/2025||
Dancing with Smurfs is a breed of blueberries.
grehbies 12/10/2025||
Smurfcat planetary immune response.
stuaxo 12/11/2025||
Ah, so thats why I find Gundam boring.
khelavastr 12/11/2025||
Gundam Seed is 1000% emo.
kjkjadksj 12/10/2025||
Which Jane Austen book has a character rip off their own arm and use it as a club?
entaloneralie 12/10/2025||
That would be Fanny Price
toast0 12/10/2025||
Didn't you read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies?
6P58r3MXJSLi 12/11/2025|
just the same as Jane Austen is one hell of a statement.

Gundam actual influences are well known, Tomino himself talked about it, more than one time. Gundam was inspired by WWII stories, but the direct source of inspiration is Gerard O’Neill’s “The High Frontier”, in which there is depicted the O'Neil Cylinder, whose design has been literally copied verbatim for Gundam's space stations/colonies.