Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm

Posted by evolve2k 12/2/2025

Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm(www.theverge.com)

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globalnode 12/4/2025|

valve is just as ambitious as microsoft or google, they just appear to be the good guy for now because theyre trying to gain some ground on evil corp, and linux is one of the only openings they (or anyone) has got.

systematizeD 12/4/2025|

The only proprietary, steam client itself, you can fork their stack build your own store if you like.

nullbyte 12/3/2025||

Yooo this is awesome, maybe we will finally get some game support on Macs now

bigyabai 12/3/2025|

Doubtful, the article is about FEX-emu and Apple has only shown interest in native ports of games to their platform.

Plus, it looks like upstream FEX doesn't play very nice with Apple Silicon in the first place.

cedws 12/3/2025||

The best thing Valve could do is nuke Wayland/X11/Xwayland from orbit. Wayland is a mess that apps still don't support and doesn't work with NVIDIA GPUs. X11 is ancient and screen tears. Xwayland is the worst of both worlds.

breve 12/4/2025||

> Wayland is a mess that apps still don't support and doesn't work with NVIDIA GPUs

KDE supports Wayland: https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-f...

Nvidia has had Wayland support for a while. Here are their latest beta drivers. The first item of the release notes is about Wayland: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/258750/

johnnyanmac 12/4/2025|||

Is the problem in this relationship Wayland of Nvidia? It is a shame that GPU's are pretty much the one big part of your computer that doesn't really conform to the general "ownership" model.

paulryanrogers 12/3/2025|||

What do you use or recommend?

cedws 12/3/2025||

I don't use Linux on laptops or desktops, only servers. I've been through all that pain. The userland has a long way to go to be a good OS everyone can use.

komali2 12/4/2025|||

Since you don't have a recommendation, your criticism of X11/Wayland feels a bit hollow. You can just say you don't like Linux OSs instead.

shmerl 12/4/2025|||

You clearly didn't use Linux any time recently.

cedws 12/4/2025|||

Nope, it still sucks. It's no good as an OS for general users. The average user has no idea what it even means to have an NVIDIA GPU, let alone be able to diagnose why their screen scaling is all fucked up or understand why they see stuff about 'killing child processes' when they press the power button.

bigyabai 12/4/2025|||

You're basically confirming the parent's suspicions. Nvidia has supported Wayland since their 550 series drivers, for the last two years desktop Linux has run fine on damn near every supported card.

You're not speaking for the "average user" here, you're speaking for yourself. We have a benchmark for what the average user thinks about Linux, and it's called a Steam Deck. You know what those users never mention? X11, Wayland, Xwayland or any of the stereotypical 2012-era boogeymen you're complaining about.

It's almost as if... you haven't used Linux in years. I won't accuse you outright, but my suspicions are mounting. (posted from an RTX 3070 on Wayland)

shmerl 12/4/2025|||

It is good, but if you didn't use it in forever, you won't actually know if it is.

shmerl 12/4/2025||

No, thanks. That's the worst Android did, creating their own incompatible thing. We don't need another NIH like that.

cedws 12/4/2025||

Android is a much more successful platform than the Linux desktop.

shmerl 12/4/2025|||

And that only created a problem by making the impact of that rift worse. So we don't need even more of such effects. Ubuntu tried going there with Mir, but luckily they figured out it was a really bad idea in time.

flanked-evergl 12/4/2025||||

Not as a desktop OS.

justsomehnguy 12/4/2025|||

More?

Linux desktop is non-existant, compared to Android

Havoc 12/3/2025||

Now we just need qualcomm to sort out their linux snapdragon support

zallarak 12/4/2025||

This may be a naive question: why ARM and not RISC-V?

debugnik 12/4/2025||

RISC-V SoCs are still underpowered for the job, and the software ecosystem hasn't matured compared to ARM, specially for Windows/x86-64 emulation. The focus on RISC-V chips is simply too recent and has lacked enough demand for it. Your question is at least a decade too early.

fnands 12/4/2025||

How many people do you know with RISC-V computers?

sylware 12/4/2025||

It should be RISC-V...

ramon156 12/4/2025|

What would be the benefit?

sylware 12/4/2025||

See the FAQ on risc-v site.

shevy-java 12/4/2025||

Unless I misunderstand something (not quite awake fully yet...), that's good right? Aka "play games on any platform" as goal. A bit with the inofficial goal of scummvm, to rescue old commercial games from vanishing for young, future generations.

2OEH8eoCRo0 12/4/2025||

fix anticheat!

zallarak 12/4/2025||

This may be a naive question but why ARM and not RISC-V?

devwastaken 12/4/2025|

Steam API doesnt even have an arm version. You cant build a native arm app with it.

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