Posted by hajtom 12 hours ago
> Gaslight community when rightfully annoyed
> Kill off primary product
> Offer same product with AI slapped on the name to enterprise customers.
Good riddance Minio, and goodbye!
[0] https://github.com/Barre/ZeroFS
[1] https://canonical-microceph.readthedocs-hosted.com/stable/
The use case is fully stateless infrastructure: your file/database servers become disposable and interchangeable (no "pets"), because all state lives in S3. This dramatically simplifies operations, scaling, and disaster recovery, and it's cheap since S3 (or at least, S3 compatible services) storage costs are very low.
The MinIO article's criticisms don't really apply here because ZeroFS doesn't store files 1:1 to S3. It uses an LSM-tree database backed by S3, which allows it to implement proper POSIX semantics with actual performance.
What about NFS or traditional filesystems on iSCSI block devices? I assume you're not using those because managing/scaling/HA for them is too painful? What about the openstack equivalents of EFS/EBS? Or Ceph's fs/blockdev solutions (although looking into it a bit, it seems like those are based on its object store)?
1. I like that it is written in Go
2. I saw nothing above what Apache Spark+Hadoop with _consistent_ object stores already offers on Amazon (S3), Google Cloud (GCS), and or Microsoft (Azure Storage, ADLS Gen2)
Best of luck, maybe folks should look around for that https://donate.apache.org/ button before the tax year concludes =3
it was very simple to setup, and even if you just leased a bunch of servers off say OVH, far FAR cheaper to run your own than paying any of the big cloud providers.
It also had pretty low requirements, ceph can do all that but setup is more complex and RAM requirements far, far higher
For a proper Ceph setup, even the 45drives budget configuration is still not "hobby" grade.
I will have to dive into the MinIO manual at some point, as the value proposition still seems like a mystery. Cheers =3
But that's kind of advantage only on the small companies and hobbyist market, big company either have enough needs to run big ceph cluster, or to buy it as a service.
Minio is literally "point it at storage(s), done". And at far smaller RAM usage.
Ceph is mon servers, osd servers, then rados gatway server on top of that.
Yes, Ceph is RADOS at its core. However, RADOS != S3. Ceph provides an S3 compatible backend with the RADOS Gateway (RGW).
I don't understand yet exactly what MinIO would add on top of that to make it relevant at any scale. I'll peruse the manual on the weekend, because their main site was not helpful. Thanks for trying though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Naming the product “AIStor” is one of the most blatant forced AI branding pivots I’ve seen.
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