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Posted by mips_avatar 12/3/2025

Everyone in Seattle hates AI(jonready.com)
967 points | 1065 commentspage 12
th0ma5 12/3/2025|
This submarines a few blame the AI haters ideas while promoting some honest aspects of reality.
mensetmanusman 12/3/2025||
Finance and HR are supposed to demoralize parts of organizations asking for too many resources.
ElijahLynn 12/3/2025||
"everyone"? Clickbait.
geldedus 12/5/2025|
author doesn't like unpleasant truths and downvotes them
yieldcrv 12/3/2025||
Unlike Seattle, in Los Angeles there are few software engineers but I would not utter AI at all here

Its an infinite moving goalpost of hate, if its an actor, "creative", writer, AI is a monolithic doom, next its theoretical public policy or the lack thereof, and if they have nothing that affects them about it then it's about the energy use and environment

nobody is going to hear about what your AI does, so don't mention anything about AI unless you're trying to earn or raise money. Its a double life

BGyss 12/3/2025|
I was just about to post that this entire story could have been completely transposed to almost every conversation I've had in Los Angeles over the past year and a half. Looks like you beat me to it!
yieldcrv 12/3/2025||
the only difference is that I don't have the conversation ha, I don't tell people about anything I do that's remotely close to that, rarely even mention anything in tech. I listen to enough other conversations to catch on to how it goes, very easy to get roped into an AI doomer conversation that's hard to get out of
symbogra 12/3/2025||
I honestly expected this to be about sanctimonious lefties complaining about a single chatgpt query using an Olympic swimming pool worth of water, but it was actually about Seattle big tech workers hating it due to layoffs and botched internal implementations which is a much more valid reason to hate it.

My buddies still or until recently still at Amazon have definitely been feeling this same push. Internal culture there has been broken since the post covid layoffs, and layering "AI" over the layoffs leaves a bad taste.

CommenterPerson 12/4/2025||
The big revenue isn't going to come from improvements in coding, or writing better emails, or protein folding. It's going to come from more seductive and compelling ads (using all the data vacuumed up from your apps and your psychological profile).
ch_fr 12/4/2025||
I have some trouble reconciling the conclusion of this article with everything else it described. How is "Clearly my coworker just wasn't believing hard enough in AI, and it harms everyone!" the conclusion the author comes to?

It might just be an ESL issue on my end, but I seriously feel some huge dissonance between the explanations of "how the tech was made the main KPI, used to justify layoffs and forced in a way that hinders productivity", and the conclusion that seems to say "the real issue with those people complaining is that they just don't believe in AI".

I don't understand this article, it seems to explain all the reasons people in Seattle might have grievances, and then completely dismisses those to adopt the usual "you're using it wrong".

Is this article just a way to advertise for Wanderfugl? Because this reads like the usual "Okay your grievances are fine and all, but consider the following: it allows me to make a SaaS really fast!" that I became accustomed to see in HN discussions.

Lapsa 12/5/2025||
Charlie, say it like it's fun: "Bing!"
stogot 12/4/2025||
> And then came the final insult: everyone was forced to use Microsoft's AI tools whether they worked or not.

Copilot for Word. Copilot for PowerPoint. Copilot for email. Copilot for code. Worse than the tools they replaced. Worse than competitors' tools. Sometimes worse than doing the work manually.

This is revolting. Three years ago I’d have said this is a terrible black mirror plot

geldedus 12/4/2025|
So, they were laid-off because they stubbornly resisted adopting AI? Remember those who were laid-off in the 90s because they resisted working at a computer because they hated computers? History repeating.
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