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Posted by mohi-kalantari 7 days ago

Google confirms Android attacks; no fix for most Samsung users(www.forbes.com)
209 points | 164 commentspage 2
resist_futility 7 days ago|
nice list of vulnerabilities and source changes

https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/2025-12-01

interloxia 6 days ago|
CVE-2025-54957 critical rce in Dolby audio processing is a worry.

https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/pixel/2025...

knorker 6 days ago||
Why anybody would buy a Samsung product at this point I don't understand.

Every single Samsung product I've had to use is actively user hostile. Like a petty kind of hostile.

magicalhippo 6 days ago||
I've been Samsung since S3, but recently picked up a cheap Motorola as a secondary. Been pretty satisfied with it, clearly not as fancy as the S23 I got, but decent enough. However they only get 2 years of Android updates, and I'm getting spammed by Motorola at least once a week of not more to install some silly game or whatnot.

I've also not been terribly impressed by the UX changes Samsung has made recently, lots of questionable decisions there.

What other decent options are out there?

dJLcnYfsE3 6 days ago||
https://www.androidauthority.com/phone-update-policies-16586... has summary of phone manufacturers update policy. It looks like for now the answer is: if you don't want an IPhone then grab Pixel and install GrapheneOS on it.

So no decent options for out-of-box experience.

TiredOfLife 6 days ago|||
They are the only ones that makes phones with usable stylus.
morshu9001 6 days ago||
They're cheap
knorker 6 days ago||
If the flaws were just about missing premium features, that'd be one thing.

But it's not. It's petty and abusive. For example, you can't see (I think it was) heart rate if you have a Samsung smart watch, but don't have a Samsung phone. They've gone out of their way to just not provide that, if you instead have a Pixel phone. And you need like 5 gigantic apps installed to manage it. Why is it not just one single Samsung wear app? Because they are abusive.

morshu9001 6 days ago||
I mean that people buy it cause it's cheap, not that it's a good idea. They don't even look at the rest. It's like an Altima.

Personally have no reason to consider anything but an iPhone, even if it has to be used.

londons_explore 6 days ago||
> with attacks that can achieve “remote denial of service

Denial of service doesn't sound so bad... Does a reboot of the device solve it?

baaron 7 days ago||
My tinfoil hat might be on too tight again... but the timing of this exploit coinciding with Google's full court press on Android user rights is just a little suspect. Especially after the ongoing public education campaign about the evils of "sideloading" an Android application.
VortexLain 6 days ago||
Closely tieing hardware and software instead of using unified OS images like on desktop, together with play "integrity" lock-in are the reasons why there are no security updates and software freedom on the mobile.
Noaidi 6 days ago||
I don't understand why Samsung, with all their money, does not make their own fork so it does not have to rely on Google. I guess that is how they get all their money though. I was inches away from buying a 25+ this week. Glad I did not.

But I mean, why do we only have two choices of OS for phones (I did not include GrapheneOS because it not easily available for the normie)? That is what is ridiculous. And why, in the US, do I only get three choices of flagship phones when in Asia they have like twenty? I hate this third world country I am living in.

yaro330 6 days ago|
They do have their own fork, they just don't have any of the security infra that google does. So they "rely" on Google for that.
yaro330 6 days ago||
Forbes as always top notch journalism, what does Samsung have to do with Google updates and why are they indirectly blamed for Samsung's slowness?..
domoregood 7 days ago||
https://archive.is/krzUC
kaluga 6 days ago|
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