Posted by speckx 12/10/2025
- Create and configure Cloud Project [Cloud Console]
- Configure OAuth Consent screen [Cloud Console]
- Configure OAuth Application Credentials [Cloud Console]
- Create a Device Access Project [Device Access Console]
- Enable events and Pub/Sub topic [Device Access & Cloud Console]
- Link Google Account
(Not for nest only, just remote access)
In the grand scheme of things, paid users are minuscule. They are probably delighted because of all the free users.
Finance users had changed in the meantime, so I navigate and create an iam user, ok, billing administrator is a thing, great.
Oh, they said it didn't work? alright, there seems to be a project billing administrator as well as an organisation billing administrator? weird, ok let's try that.
Hmm... it still didn't work? let's look around a little more. Ok, within the billing account (that they're a billing administrator to) and within the organisation (that they're a billing administrator to) there is a tab called "payment users". This seems to be _separate_ from their IAM users, and the person needs to be added there (as well as? instead of? who knows) and _then_ they can change the card details.
UX is especially crap here (for google cloud billing).
Let's not even get started on the whole vertex vs. aistudio stuff. Also when one of the gemini's came out their python library worked while their curl docs, and their ruby client didn't so we had to read the source of the python library to figure out what it actually did under the hood to test it out. (this was a while ago, I think they might've gotten better since but the documentation/devex was really bad at at the time)
So fuck them, I decided. Sold all my Apple hardware but phone and watch. Downgraded phone to basic bitch when my last one died
It's interesting to me this UX problem is not readily solved.
What is the sticking point in a big org? I don't have a point of reference.
Otherwise, this sounds a lot like "impenetrable government bureaucracy." I thought business was supposed to be better.
I admit I’m completely ignorant about what’s really involved, I have never tried and am just going on vague things I’ve heard but stories like this definitely reinforce my perception. I even have a mistral account, grok, etc, but google feels like a whole other level of complication.
Google really needs to evaluate separating service bans. I cannot be the only one who would rather go to a competitor than risk angering the black box and destroying my digital life.
Googlers tend to exist in an isolated bubble. In the corporate world, Azure is the default and they have Azure OpenAI. Why would someone bother with Gemini? Unless the devs at companies have a good experience with it of course.
Googlers are awesome/mean well, if only enough of them lurked here :)
I actually do agree that Vercel's admin screens are quite good compared to the other usual suspects. But I don't consider that to be on the development side of things. It's done decently well because it is geared towards the business folks who are paying the bills.
Developers writing code on top of the development solutions produced by Vercel have been completely forsaken.
- How builds and deploys are configured
- The simple aspect of connecting a GitHub repo and you get auto deploys
- Auto creating branch environments that make testing as easy as a new link
- Just configuring users and permissions and not seeing IAM anywhere is a huge win
My billing admins don't do any of this stuff.
Even with something as simple as google workspace - permissioning service accounts and authentication are a pain in the ass
The docs suck and of course there’s no one to help
Never again, thanks.