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Posted by walterbell 5 days ago

iPhone Typos? It's Not Just You – The iOS Keyboard Is Broken [video](www.youtube.com)
706 points | 435 commentspage 2
iamacyborg 5 days ago|
Well, I’m glad I’m not going crazy and the keyboard does actually suck since the glass update…
saurik 5 days ago|
The video actually says that he also can replicate the issue on iOS 18.
ksec 5 days ago||
Thank You. Keep being told that it was not the new iOS fault.

Not only Alan Dye, Eddy Cue, Craig Federighi also need to go. Bring back Scot Forstall.

al_borland 5 days ago||
I had an iPhone day 1 in 2007, and my typing on that day was better than it is today.

Once they added the suggestion bar above the keyboard things got noticeably worse. Every time they try to fix it they make it even worse than before.

With the current version, it’s not just the issue in the video I see as an issue. The two big problems I have are 1) repeated words, where I will type a word once, but auto-completion will inject another one. 2) The autocorrect will seemingly look at the whole paragraph I’m typing and change random words I typed several lines up and deemed correct. I will catch it doing this in real time, and sometimes it will flip a word back and forth repeatedly. I find I don’t just need to proofread while I’m typing, but also need to go through and re-read everything. It wasn’t always like this.

Maybe it’s my rose colored glasses, but I often think the iPhone peaked with the 4S.

hinkley 5 days ago||
I literally cannot type "its" without iPhone putting an apostrophe into it every goddamned time, even when it's obvious from the beginning of the sentence that the next word must be a verb not a possessive pronoun.

If I ever lose my marbles I know I'm going to accuse iOS of being in on it.

farhanhubble 5 days ago||
I have always used SwiftKey and Android. This year I switched to Apple because Android was being bloated by Samsung etc. I'm shocked by how horrible Apple keypad is. I also feel like the touch sensitivity of iphone is worse than Samsung phones.

I installed SwiftKey on iPhone too but even it seems sluggish.

nashashmi 5 days ago||
Long a swift key fan but ever since it got sold to MS, it has gone downhill. I have it on my iphone and I think the development on that has stopped. My favorite keyboard is just unusable.

I went to apple keyboard and had to disable autocorrect because it would uncorrect it to the wrong word until five words down and decides which word makes more sense.

bpye 5 days ago|||
I went the other way this year, from an iPhone to a Z Flip 7. It's generally been a pretty good experience - the bloat on Samsung devices seems significantly less bad than it used to be 7 or 8 years ago.

I've stuck with Samsung's keyboard and it has mostly been fine, though it's less aggressive about adding punctuation for contractions etc.

fragmede 5 days ago||
GBoard for me. Can't stand the Apple iOS keyboard for some reason.
neom 5 days ago||
+1 on GBoard - every time an app has that weird bug where it selects the native ios keyboard instead of GBoard it doesn't take long for me to notice, it's crazy how bad the Apple iOS keyboard is by comparison.
everdrive 5 days ago||
I actually keep a bluetooth keyboard when I'm at my desk but am forced to use my phone. I really, really dislike touchscreens and touchscreen typing, and it's baffling to me that so many people seem to like it. The bluetooth keyboard is actually a little Logitech K380, and it's quite convenient as I also have it paired with my work laptop and my steam deck. I just push the button to seamlessly swap between pairings.
joecool1029 5 days ago||
I guess I'm in an extreme minority here but... it's not broken if autocorrect is off.

I raw dog my typing everywhere. Zero autocorrect. The last time I did use typing assistance was on BB10 with the 'flick to complete' because it was out of my way enough that I could ignore it was there or use it to save a small amount of time. Otherwise I too have the fond memory of Windows Phone's keyboard (I ran it on the HTC HD2), I couldn't tell you why it was good other than it felt good to use, again without autocorrect.

However, I'm CERTAIN there's an ergonomics thing at play, the 'brain calibration' time for me to type accurately on a big screen takes longer. I ran the original iPhone SE's as long as I could and always carried a second android device that was huge by comparison. Today I have the 15 Pro and a OnePlus 11. If I spend a lot of time using the iPhone it takes a little time maybe 20 minutes or so to stop making easy errors on the OnePlus 11. However, going back to the smaller iPhone after being on the OnePlus for awhile, there's not really an adjustment, I can hit all the letters accurately.

I have large hands, I still want the smaller device. There is extra work to need to move your hand and eyes across a larger device. More space to misclick on.

Swipe to type is enabled on android/ios for me. I use it sometimes, if you are hesitant at all on iOS or have a tendency to drag fingers at all don't enable it or it will mess up your typing. It's of course enabled by default like autocorrect. Some people have issues with it.

Dictation is underrated on iOS at least. It just works better and faster than the shitty autocorrect for typing. Obviously not applicable to a lot of situations but when I don't feel like typing it works really well.

EDIT: And I really have to have it off, I switch between devices too much and even with them learning my style of writing, I write differently for different contexts and each OS does its own thing differently. I don't want to spend the extra mental bandwidth correcting the autocorrect or having to think of how that specific autocorrect will behave.

SJMG 5 days ago||
Also in the minority. I use pretty atypical language and grammar for effect frequently, which is a nightmare to edit on iOS. I'm probably a little slower typing now for run of the mill message, but like you said dictation is actually great for that.

I'm overall happy with the decision and would recommend others try it.

Gander5739 5 days ago|||
I use Thumb-Key, an android keyboard that doesn't have features like autocorrect and swipe-to-type, and it works quite well for my purposes.
garbagewoman 4 days ago||
Looks like your experience isn’t universal
FriedPickles 5 days ago||
> The best thing we can do is just report it via the feedback app and wait for a bug fix

iOS supports third party keyboards. Surely anybody this bothered by it should investigate those and pick a better option?

There was an absolutely mind-blowing keyboard which supported multi-finger swiping called Nintype, but development on it has stopped.

mckn1ght 5 days ago||
Apple’s support for 3rd party keyboards is notoriously difficult to work with. It’s not surprising to me that we don’t see many high quality alternatives.
deepspace 5 days ago||
Working with 3rd party keyboards is still the same nightmare it was when the feature was introduced many years ago. For one, iOS will randomly switch you to a different keyboard. Or the keyboard will just crash.
Aachen 5 days ago|||
What does it matter that development has stopped? I haven't updated my software keyboard in a decade because I'm simply happy with the way it works. Why not use Nintype if you like it?
FriedPickles 5 days ago|||
Mostly I'm worried about bit rot, i.e. breaking changes in subsequent iOS updates. But your point is valid, I'll try Nintype again. It's extremely quirky and opinionated in an entertaining way.
arijanj 4 days ago|||
At least on Android, Nintype has a few annoying bugs now and has gotten terribly slow. But it's an incredible idea and I wish it would get revived by someone - I still use it despite the bugs, but I need to switch over to Gboard sometimes.
n8cpdx 5 days ago||
The third party keyboards are OK, but it depends on if you trust sending 100% of your typing content to a third party. The two big options are owned by Microsoft and Google. It’s bad enough I have to trust Apple. And Gboard still isn’t as good as the Android keyboard.
kalleboo 4 days ago||
By default third-party keyboards on iOS do not have internet access to phone home your data with, that's something you have to grant it.
izackp 5 days ago||
I literally just had a dream about this. Where I needed to urgently send a message, but I kept messing up the text. Weird. At least now, I know I'm not just fat fingering it.
DonHopkins 5 days ago||
I have a frequently reoccurring dream (nightmare scenario) that I'm somewhere unpleasant where I don't want to be, and need to leave right away, so I try to order an Uber on my iPhone, but the app is just so fucking hard to use and figure out, with all the important commands hidden so that the user interface is clean and sleek and beautiful and minimalistic without any visible scrollbars or labeled buttons or visual affordances, so much that I can't even use it, and I'm trapped in some horrible place in a nightmare I can't get away from, desperately fumbling with my iPhone.

I think it's a manifestation with my pain and disgust with Alan Dye's vain cosmetic approach to user interface design.

Now maybe my nightmares will shift to being trapped in the Facebook user interface, now that Alan Dye is at Meta. They totally deserve him, and I hope he destroys Facebook once and for all.

glitchc 5 days ago|||
I have a similar dream: Every time I click anywhere on the Uber interface, it enrolls me into Uber One.

Come to think of it, maybe that's not a dream...

kivimaki 5 days ago||||
I have this exact same dream. Can’t type the correct address to save my life, and the app keeps “helpfully” steering me towards options I don’t want.
DonHopkins 2 days ago||
I have tried to set a "lucid dream recognition breakpoint" on my iPhone's user interface being impossible to use, but I keep hitting it in real life that I can't wake up from, and I keep getting terrorized by it in dreams without recognizing it.

Sigh.

The only way out of this insipid inception is for Apple to get their shit together and actually fix their UI, but that's never going to happen.

noncoml 5 days ago||
Mine is not being able to dial the right number on a phone.
frabonacci 4 days ago|
Same here. I even blamed it on switching between Italian and Spanish all the time and thought my brain was short-circuiting. But when you see the right key light up and a different letter shows up, something’s clearly off. Also: with battery saver on it’s basically unusable - the lag makes typing way worse. The video was oddly comforting. Turns out I’m not losing it.
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