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Posted by evakhoury 12/16/2025

I program on the subway(www.scd31.com)
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dackle 12/21/2025|
Here is a description of the daily commute by Michael Milken, 1980s junk bond king, as told in "Predator's Ball" by Connie Bruck:

At 5:30am each weekday in the early 1970s, a bus pulled up to a stop in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, and a young man lugging a bag that bulged with papers mounted its steps. He was making the two-hour commute to New York City, where he worked at the investment­ banking firm of Drexel Firestone. The train would have provided a more comfortable and faster ride; but, for those very reasons, it also offered more opportunity to meet other Wall Street acquaintances. They would want to engage in the kind of idle small talk that commuters share to pass the time. The thought must have been intolerable. He did not wish to be rude, but he wanted no interrup­tion.

As soon as he had settled into his seat, being sure to take one with an empty one adjacent, he unloaded a mountain of prospectuses and 10ks (annual Securities and Exchange Commission filings) onto the seat next to him. On winter mornings the sky was still pitch black and the light on the bus was too dim for him to be able to read. He wore a leather aviation cap with the earflaps down; he had been bald for years, and although he wore a toupee his head always felt cold on these frosty mornings. Now over his aviation cap he fitted a miner's headlamp -- strapped around the back of his head, with a huge light projecting from his forehead.

nine_k 12/22/2025||
This is dedication.

Unfortunately I can't program on a bus, I get motion sickness. Subway works very well though! It insulates me from most distractions. The only problem is that the longest subway commute I ever had was about 45 minutes; solid 2 hours would allow for so much more! :)

burningChrome 12/22/2025||
A buddy of mine had the same thing. He started taking the light rail into downtown and purposefully parked at one of the early stops instead of taking the bus in. He said he would sit and code on his side projects for around the same amount of time. In the span of a year, he knocked out several small mobile apps and several social media plugins.

He said the benefit was being able to spend more time with his family at night when he got home. He knew he would have some time on the train, so not having to crack his laptop to get in some coding after dinner allowed him to spend a lot more time handling the kids and spending time with his wife.

"Work/Life balance achieved!" he used to proclaim with a big smile when we'd sit and chat.

stasge 12/22/2025|||
My commute to work is quite long but there is no "sitting" in Tokyo's trains in mornings/evenings so I program on a smartphone. Yes, it's not impossible but it takes time to get used to it.
timpera 12/22/2025|||
Would you mind sharing a bit more about how you make it work? Do you have an app? or are you just using the notepad on your phone?
WorldPeas 12/22/2025|||
have you ever considered a nanote from donki? I've been using one as a paired terminal and with the right os (debian, no GUI) it stays cool enough and gets good battery, same with the gpd handhelds
nine_k 12/22/2025||
I would go for some affordable AR glasses + a one-hand chord keyboard. No need to hold a device in one hand and operate it with another, while standing awkwardly bent down.
WorldPeas 12/22/2025||
I generally just thumb-type on it with the hinge bent at 180°. I have a colleauge who tried the meta AR glasses and found the display smudgey with his 20/20 vision and my quest 3 I found very screen door-y, though I will admit I liked the apple vision pro's display, I have a fair bit of pessimism about the field as a whole atm, but would like to be proven wrong
gotezk 12/21/2025||
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snake42 12/21/2025||
Why would you ever think this an acceptable thing to say?
Forgeties79 12/22/2025|||
I’ve recently learned to downvote/flag and not respond to green names. The number of new accounts coming in hot with inflammatory takes lately has seemed higher to me, but admittedly this is purely a “vibe,” I have no numbers to back it up.

Anyway, I just flag/downvote and move on.

mid-kid 12/22/2025||
TIL that the green color means the account is new. I always thought it was a special marker somehow, like the equivalent of a blue checkmark.
Forgeties79 12/22/2025||
Yeah I used to think it was the thread OP or an admin or something myself.
Craighead 12/22/2025||||
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gotezk 12/21/2025|||
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ziofill 12/21/2025||
When I was living in Paris I had a 20 min ride from home to work each day. I picked up the habit to read during those 40 total minutes and I was going through books like I had never been able to, because while 40 min is not a lot, it’s about 150h per year. One easily underestimates the power of consistency.
bitmasher9 12/21/2025||
I read many books a year by reading for 20-30 minutes per night before sleeping. A habit with multiple benefits (winding down and reading or commuting and reading) is very powerful for getting the most value out of your time.
bbkane 12/21/2025|||
Until the book gets really good and you have to keep reading past your bedtime to learn what happens (or maybe that's just me)
druskacik 12/21/2025|||
It's not just you, I hear this often, but I am always suprised people can read for so long in bed. No matter how interesting a book is, I can rarely read more than 20-30 minutes before the urge to fall asleep becomes too strong.

But I can sometimes code until like 4AM. Weird.

sponnath 12/22/2025|||
Reading is usually more passive than coding. I'm often never sleepy if I'm actively coding something late at night but reading a book (no matter how engaging) or watching a tv show can very easily make me sleepy. That said, everyone's brains work very differently.
wredcoll 12/22/2025||
This is just so weird. In general coding won't let me fall asleep but a book 100% will never let me sleep until I finish.

I also find the idea of "forcing" yourself to read rather peculiar, but we're all different people. I wonder if there's genuinely something different in how the brain reacts.

hexfish 12/22/2025|||
Well you are sitting in front of a relatively bright lamp when coding.
bitmasher9 12/23/2025||||
This happens to me about once a year. I’m much more likely to stay up later than planned while doing other activities such as watching tv, coding, talking, social media, or spending time with my partner.
burningChrome 12/22/2025|||
Anything true crime keeps me up. Same with many genre's like you said, but for some reason true crime always hooks me.

I read the Zodiac book by Robert Graysmith in less than two days over break in college. Could not put it down.

jorvi 12/21/2025||||
To offer a counterargument: I would strongly recommend aspiring and avid readers to not make reading in bed your primary / only mode of reading. It will make your brain associate books with sleep and thus make you turn drowsy the moment you have turned a few pages.
MaysonL 12/22/2025||||
I wore out the elbows of quite a few shirts lying on my side in bed reading. This was during the time I would go to the local science fiction bookstore every Saturday and buy three or four books, ocassionally finishing them by Monday.
mnky9800n 12/22/2025|||
I stopped because I would feel sleepy and also feel like I didn’t get what I was reading and would forget the book. I suppose that’s something of a champagne problem.
prinny_ 12/21/2025|||
I also used to read my commute but stopped it after I finished "for whom the bell tolls". I was so moved that I ended up crying in the bus and I would have liked to experience that feeling in the privacy of my home rather in the morning bus with 9 hours still on the clock.
throwaway2037 12/22/2025|||
I used to religiously read The New Yorker (magazine) on my commute. I remember crying while reading about the copper mine rescue in Chile.
mnky9800n 12/22/2025|||
I read the road by Cormac McCarthy on the train. That was a mistake.
theshrike79 12/21/2025|||
I commute to the office 1-3 times a week, it's about 30 minutes on the train + some walking.

I've gone through so many books it's crazy :)

With audiobooks I can start listening the second I step out of the door and stop while I take my jacket off in the office. With e-books I usually just read on the train.

Most books aren't that long, around 5 hours a week of reading just during your commutes is quite a bit.

ipaddr 12/21/2025|||
For one year I read every free moment averaged a book every 3 days mostly biographies many on wrestling. The year I got an e-reader (alura tech). Stopped after the screen broke.

The book that stood out the most. Sugar Barons.

famahar 12/22/2025|||
I do the same with language learning. Makes me actually enjoy commuting to work since I find it hard to study at home. I just pop in the headphones, take a seat, and sit for 40 mins twice a day. Sometimes I even intentionally take the non-rapid so I can study a bit more (plus the train is less packed so I'm always guaranteed a seat)
systems 12/21/2025||
how can you read in 20 minutes, for me 20 minutes is only good enough to stare out the windows and ... zip zip 20 minutes are gone

i need a couple of hours to do any technical reading

20 minutes, maybe, maybe .. good enough if i am reading fiction or something

scubbo 12/21/2025|||
> how can you read in 20 minutes

> good enough if i am reading fiction or something

Looks like you got there in the end.

fastasucan 12/22/2025|||
Just do as you do when you are doing technical reading for a couple of hours, but stop after 20 minutes.
teddyh 12/21/2025||
Many years ago, before mobile internet was reasonable and before wireless internet was available, and before even electrical outlets were something which could be counted on to be present on trains, I took a 6 hour train ride. I had no laptop. I printed out, on paper, the entire source code of the project I was working on, and brought a red pen. I read through the whole thing, from start to finish. Many subtle bug fixes, refactorings, and efficiency improvements were made that day.
someone_jain_ 12/22/2025||
Thats pretty rad! How many papers were you hauling!?
dghost-dev 12/22/2025||
That’s actually pretty cool!
komali2 12/21/2025||
> they would have to do it at a station, where they could immediately get off the train. I think, though, that this would be risky, given that subway stops generally have a lot of people getting on/off the train in the first place.

I've seen a phone jacking in this exact scenario and nobody moved to stop the guy running. Nobody on the train can help cause the doors have closed, and nobody on the platform has any idea anything just happened, or if they do the guy is well gone before they can put two and two together.

For me I always pocket my phone or e-reader at each stop, unless I'm in Japan or Taiwan.

btrettel 12/21/2025||
Here's my experience with (attempted) theft on a train:

I once was on a MARC train at DC Union Station. Some train cars have electrical sockets, so I plugged in a bike light I had since I'd be taking a bike for the last part of the trip. The train hadn't left the station yet. I was standing near the seat with the socket. Some unassuming looking guy was walking through the train car, like probably 100 did before him, when he grabbed the light, unplugged it, and kept walking. I immediately confronted him (I was in his path) saying something like "What are you doing?" Without a word, he handed me the light and walked off the train. I found a conductor like 15 seconds later and they called security, who apparently detained the guy.

This guy was way more brazen about stealing something of little value than I had expected. I was standing near the seat and watching it! I guess he didn't expect me to be the owner.

DANmode 12/21/2025||
He didn’t expect you to confront him before he was gone.
mc3301 12/22/2025|||
I'm a Japan resident... whenever I'm outside of Japan, friends have to remind me to not "leave my laptop out like that" nor hold wads of visible cash or keep my smartphone on the table.

Cafes... I'll go to the bathroom or whatever and just leave my stuff all out on the table, meanwhile with my high-end bicycle parked unlocked and out-of-view outside.

It, of course, isn't like this EVERYWHERE in Japan, but many many places.

ibejoeb 12/21/2025|||
I'm not worried about the laptop. Pretty much everyone knows that any valuable laptop is a tracking device anyway.

You should be worried about getting actually robbed, or even being attacked for no reason, while you're not paying attention.

Also, yes, nobody's going to help you. Some of it is because of general unawareness, as you point out. Then, it's difficult to know who's the aggressor. Even if that's all crystal clear, you're almost certainly going to deal with months or years of legal hell if you intervene. Successful interventions often lead to prosecutions.

neighbour 12/21/2025|||
>any valuable laptop is a tracking device anyway.

You say this but I've seen countless videos of Apple stores getting raided by thugs who steal all the devices. We all know those devices will shut down and be inoperable but they don't know and/or care.

jamespo 12/22/2025|||
What's the source for this "successful interventions often lead to prosecutions"?
ibejoeb 12/22/2025||
Actual events. Are you looking for examples? Off the cuff, in the past 2 years we've had 2 high-profile incidents: Jordan Williams and Daniel Penny.
jamespo 1/2/2026|||
How are you defining often there?
goosejuice 12/22/2025|||
Successful interventions don't lead to death.
ibejoeb 12/22/2025||
Right on. I see what kind of thread you're going for, so I'm out.
goosejuice 12/22/2025||
I mean why would you call that successful?

Are you aware of any law enforcement agencies that would risk loss of life for material objects? Even in the case of harm prevention, it's a failure if the perp dies. That's still seen as a policy or op failure.

Mawr 12/23/2025||
Random passerby are not law enforcement professionals, they're untrained and therefore can't be held to such standards.

The case of Daniel Penny cited above is straightforward: "Neely boarded the car Penny was riding and reportedly began threatening passengers. After the train had left the station, Penny approached Neely from behind to apply the chokehold, and maintained it in a sitting position until Neely went limp a few minutes after the train had reached the next stop."

That's exactly what a successfully stopped threat looks like. That the threatening person ended up dying is unfortunate, but they did ultimately bring that upon themselves. They were free to stop being a threat to others at any time.

But then I don't know what you're trying to imply with the loss of life to protect material objects comment. Seems like an attempt to troll, because nobody is talking about that.

goosejuice 12/23/2025||
> But then I don't know what you're trying to imply with the loss of life to protect material objects comment. Seems like an attempt to troll, because nobody is talking about that.

From the thread (edited for clarity):

-> I've seen a phone jacking in this exact scenario and nobody moved to stop the guy running. Nobody on the train can help cause the doors have closed, and nobody on the platform has any idea anything just happened, or if they do the guy is well gone before they can put two and two together.

-> I'm not worried about the laptop. Pretty much everyone knows that any valuable laptop is a tracking device anyway. You should be worried about getting actually robbed, or even being attacked for no reason, while you're not paying attention.

-> Are you looking for examples? Off the cuff, in the past 2 years we've had 2 high-profile incidents: Jordan Williams and Daniel Penny.

Theft -> examples of loss of life during "successful interventions".

> That's exactly what a successfully stopped threat looks like.

We might be getting caught up on how to define successful here. If by successful you mean that the outcome was legal then I agree, and would say the outcomes of these trials were likely the appropriate outcome.

But if by successful you mean the best outcome, which is what I take it to mean, then I disagree. A successful intervention would be one where no-one was injured. I've spent years riding trains in Chicago where there's a pretty regular cohort of individuals suffering from various mental illness. I even lived in a building that partially served as a half-way house for such individuals. I've seen people do what Jordan Neely was claimed to do a couple dozen times without altercation. I've also seen people assaulted and knifes get pulled. There are ways to de-escalate a situation that doesn't result in a lethal outcome. That should be the definition of successful here.

> Random passerby are not law enforcement professionals, they're untrained and therefore can't be held to such standards.

The standard is the law. Vigilantism doesn't get a pass on the law just because it was good natured. Perhaps the law gives good natured people caution, but the alternative is much worse. "Legal hell" as it was put, is appropriate when involved in the death of an individual. That's just a consequence of living in a society that values human life.

afavour 12/21/2025|||
I also code on the subway from time to time and this does occur to me. But there are locations in an NYC subway car you can sit that would make it very difficult for someone to grab your laptop and exit the train before the doors close. It's still a risk but it's not uncommon to see people with all kinds of valuable items (e.g. shopping bags from premium fashion stores) out in the open on the subway.

Crazy to think back to 2007 when iPhone users were advised to buy black earphones so the white ones wouldn't give them away as targets for theft. How far we've come/how commoditized our electronics have become.

goosejuice 12/23/2025||
A CS professor of mine had his laptop lifted on the train home right out of his lap. It does happen.
schoen 12/21/2025|||
I wonder what you could usefully do with a Kensington lock on the train. I bought one for use in cafés although I haven't used it most of the time.

You could attach it to something bulkier or something that you could put under the seat, maybe. I don't remember if New York subway seats have an exposed bar underneath that you could lock it to. I'm sure locking it to the vertical poles in the center of the car would be extremely antisocial.

ms-fellag 12/21/2025|||
Wear it like a belt while attaching it to the laptop (If you don't mind looking a bit ridiculous).

Although I'd highly recommend putting some cloth around it, or fitting it through the belt loops of jeans/trousers to soften the inevitable 'yank' when it comes.

avidiax 12/21/2025|||
Just my opinion, but I feel Kensington locks have little value.

Sure, maybe it will deface the stolen item when it gets ripped off, but for a thief, the device is still usable, and it can be sold for parts or at a discount. We are talking about the sorts of people that steal bicycle wheels and seats.

Their utility is in keeping honest people honest. For example, keeping office workers or customers from just walking off with or moving assets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6wRhrWl_2M

schoen 12/21/2025||
Here we're literally talking about protecting the device while the user is actively using it! Just preventing someone from grabbing it by hand for 5 seconds is a huge win.
komali2 12/22/2025||
I mean, wouldn't it just result in the side of the laptop being ripped off?
schoen 12/22/2025||
The lock and lock attachment are supposedly rated for several hundred pounds of force. There are probably people who can break it by hand (especially if they practice applying the force at just the right angle or something) but a casual "grab and run" is not going to do it.
avidiax 12/22/2025||
Must by highly device dependent. I've never seen a laptop that had more than some thin sheet metal as reinforcement for the lock slot.

Check the Youtube video in my comment above.

schoen 12/23/2025||
Huh, that's not so encouraging! :-(
madaxe_again 12/22/2025|||
This is why I always used a clunker on the tube - early 2000s, you’d find me with a mid 90s monochrome Toshiba 386 laptop, cranking out code in vim - one handed, because the other hand supported the laptop - there are rarely seats on the tube.

Anyway. A) it was ancient and worthless and B) if anyone tried anything it was heavy enough it could do serious damage.

dmaa 12/22/2025|||
On my phone, I have a faceid requirement on basically any app, so getting it ripped off my hands would be just a minor inconvenience.

Laptop on the other hand... Many times working on the train i've been thinking about some accelerometer based emergency lockdown. Can't be that hard to do.

jamespo 12/22/2025||
There is software to shutdown/lock based on removal of a usb device that you have looped onto your wrist.
trinix912 12/21/2025||
True, but a laptop is much more of a hassle to quickly grab and run with than a phone.

What also helps is having one that's full of stickers or overall looks fairly (ab)used. A pristine MacBook is going to be much more of a target than a random ThinkPad with a sticker, greasy keyboard and 20 scratches.

Spooky23 12/21/2025|||
Depends on where and when you are. Some hyped up dude is fixated on the next fix and lacks the executive function to discriminate. The more professional thieves are more discriminating.
bitmasher9 12/21/2025||
I agree that it’s just a matter of when it’s stolen, not if it’s going to be stolen.

The article suggests the laptop is about $300, and he uses it about 1hr/day.

If the laptop is stolen less than once a year he spends less than $1/hr for coding on the go, which I would consider a fair deal.

Spooky23 12/22/2025||
By “when” I mean time of day. If you’re heading somewhere in Brooklyn after 7pm, that’s different than heading to the city at 7am.
hopelite 12/21/2025|||
There’s probably no market for it, but it might be interesting to make a MacBook case/cover and/or stickers that make it look old, cracked, scratched, and dirty.

It would be interesting to see if that would deter a thief.

bookofjoe 12/21/2025|||
https://nuroco.com/products/mosiso-laptop-pu-case-for-new-ma...
roughly 12/21/2025|||
Reminds me of the old SNL sketch: https://streamable.com/m7omz
kevin_thibedeau 12/21/2025||
> I don't even have an internet connection.

Vibe coders feeling a great disturbance in the force.

DoctorOW 12/21/2025||
Not immediately of course, you have to wait until the robots are trained on this blogpost.
venturecruelty 12/21/2025|||
Using your brain and skills to program is so 2021.
tonyedgecombe 12/22/2025|||
I spent six months coding up a new product in a rented office with no internet. It was a really productive period.
mohamez 12/21/2025||
Nomophobia is the word for that lol
anthk 12/21/2025||
Or plain incompetence...
incanus77 12/21/2025||
About 20 years ago, I landed my first real, high-impact job at an upstart consulting agency in Washington DC that came from the ashes of the Howard Dean campaign. Unfortunately, I had also just signed a lease on an apartment in the town I lived in, a two hour drive from downtown DC.

I spent the first year at that job commuting into DC 2-3 days/week, which involved about an hour drive, then an hour regional commuter train, then some Metro transfer and walking — then back again in the evening. I spent that train time offline (as it was 2004) learning the Apple Cocoa frameworks, as in another twist of fate, the company was entirely Apple laptop-based, which was fairly rare for 2004, and I built tools for the team and myself. The focus possible because I was offline, with comprehensive docs, was pretty intense and was a huge part of many aspects of my career to follow.

neilv 12/22/2025||
Something a bit like that is part of how I got the Lisp Hacker merit badge.

I wanted a Lisp to be my new platform language for rapid systems research. And I had to spend most of each day on my laptop, from cafes and parks around town, with very little Internet access.

So I got all the docs locally, and I kludged up Emacs as a power-efficient "IDE" (including avoiding having to run a bloated Web browser), to help keep the hard drive spun down and CPU slowed.

Then I simply did a lot of programming, without distractions like open plan offices and pointless meetings. Even though I might be sitting against a tree in a busy park, and then have to move to a noisy cafe to recharge battery. Still so much less distracting and less stressful than an open plan office.

sokoloff 12/22/2025||
Having started using emacs in the 80s, it’s strange to read about it being the power-efficient choice now.

I agree it was for you, but it had well-earned the “eight megabytes and constantly swapping” reputation 35 years ago.

j_bum 12/21/2025|||
Sounds like an incredible period. Do you miss it at all?

I’ve had phases of my life where I was lucky to have periods of absolute and undisturbed focus (grad school, summers during college, etc.). It’s easy to forget how valuable that type of focus time is until it goes away!

incanus77 12/21/2025||
Oh sure, lots of things to miss about that time... startup vibes, underdog causes during the worst of the Bush years, and work that ranged from the Mac stuff to Linux/BSD backend admin, PHP dev, introduction of the tech team to SVN/version control, even some music composition for a video. And close work with a bunch of folks on the team who now have their own Wikipedia pages, as well as high-profile clients. My boss left eventually in mid 2005 to go work for (then Senator) Obama and personally interviewed him for / produced his podcast, posted to his Flickr, and that sort of thing.

The commuting... not so much. Moved into DC proper after that year, which itself was a great adventure. Leaving the house at 5:30-6:00am and returning at 8:30-9:00pm was no way to live.

wwweston 12/22/2025||
what else has comprehensive off-line docs these days?
mid-kid 12/22/2025|||
I usually make do with `man` pages for C (very comprehensive), and the `python-docs` package in my distro (you can download a static copy of the python documentation, and even the search will work offline). As well as whatever PDF manuals I need for what I'm doing.

As I use Gentoo I also usually have the source code for anything on my system, so I can dig into that if I'm missing some docs, as there's frequently a docs/ folder in the archive.

If I'm missing documentation, I make a note of it and see if there's a way to make it available locally, somehow.

incanus77 12/22/2025|||
I’ve used this downloadable Python doc set at times, it’s quite good offline.
Tom1380 12/22/2025|||
Rust docs are also available offline. Pretty handy once in a while
lights0123 12/22/2025||||
https://zealdocs.org/ is surprisingly decent.
fragmede 12/22/2025|||
https://devdocs.io/
nathell 12/22/2025||
A few years ago, I spotted a guy on the underground in Warsaw, hacking on some code in a language I didn't recognize, but it was definitely assembly of some sort. Being shy, I resorted to throwing curious glimpses at his laptop for a few stations, but eventually curiosity got the better of me and I asked ‘sorry, is this ARM’? To which the guy replies, smiling, ‘ah no, it’s MIPS!’

Now I program casually in public spaces, including the underground, on my GPD Micro PC [0]. It, too, has attracted numerous glimpses and been a conversation starter on some occasions.

[0]: https://blog.danieljanus.pl/2022/08/18/i-love-my-gpd-micro-p...

asimovDev 12/22/2025|
that's a fun story! i program on the train often due to occasional long commute (hour one way), but I live in finland so people are much less likely to talk to me, a stranger on the train, out of blue. On couple occasions I wanted to talk to another coder on the train when I notice their laptop stickers (a gamejam sticker or a sticker saying that this laptop is property of company X) but felt too self-conscious to do that cause they looked very focused
btreesOfSpring 12/21/2025||
When I was part of a team developing a highly durable texting protocol, those of us in NYC would regularly test messaging while riding the subway. Between stations, you didn't have network access but different devices upon entering the next station would handle and recover from the interruptions in various ways.

The subway produced so many repeatable network connection edge case problems. It was fantastic.

confusus 12/22/2025|
Sounds very cool! Is that protocol still around?
sedatk 12/22/2025||
What I miss about my long commutes on public transportation in early 2000’s was the serenity of doing absolutely nothing.

It was essentially forced meditation, and it helped me a lot in reorganizing my thoughts.

I had moved next to the office later, and noticed that I’d really missed those meditative hours. I saved maybe 1.5 hours of commute every day but my net productivity had declined.

I don’t think it would be as easy to achieve the same effect today as it was back then. We now have phones and interactive ads, and that dopamine driven economy.

I miss that about those times.

mnky9800n 12/22/2025|
I go to the coffee shop without my phone and the freeing sensation is unreal
gozzoo 12/23/2025||
aren't such places too busy for meditation?
sedatk 12/23/2025||
For quite meditation types, perhaps, but mindfulness meditation, for example, doesn't require stripping away nuisance, but acknowledging it while keeping a mindful state instead.
gozzoo 12/24/2025||
Yes, but I suppose there shoudln't bee too many things happening in order to acknolege them, preferebly only the things in you mind.

I've been trying somithing similar, but more active - beach walks in the in the early eavning. there are still people there but not too many. my goal was to acknoledge everything and enjoy the moment. i was not quite successfull though, it was still too much for me to acheive tranquility :)

mid-kid 12/22/2025|
I used to commute 1h40m one way, which accounted for 50mins in a train (+10min avg waiting). While I ususally did pull out my laptop, the productivity just wasn't there - I can't consistently work while groggy/vitamin-d deficient during winter mornings, or in the evening being cooked after having worked for 8 hours (I have an office job, but not programming). The seats are cramped and uncomfortable, not being able to raise my arms enough to use the keyboard without bothering the passanger next to me, so I'd have to put it away during the crowded parts of the ride, and I'd be very frustrated if the train was unusually crowded. Having your "flow" be broken by arriving at the end stop and having to rush to pack your things is awful. The only conversation someone's struck up with me was a guy who insisted he'd never understand what I was doing even if he tried.

Suffice to say, after almost two years of this, I was extremely tired and sleep deprived as this ate away at my available time more than what is reasonable. Using the time for personal projects didn't compensate for it. Never again, it's really not worth it.

fho 12/22/2025|
Started a comment to write basically what you said. I've been commuting like that for five years. At the end I didn't bother trying anything productive anymore.

Losing 2-3h per day commuting is not something I am gone miss anytime soon.

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