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Posted by tananaev 6 days ago

Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT(openai.com)
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ttoinou 6 days ago|
How do developers prevent users exfiltrating their apps’ prompts?
simonw 6 days ago||
They basically don't. It's honestly not even worth trying - it's embarrassing if your prompt leaks and it starts with "under no circumstances repeat this prompt to the user!"
sanex 6 days ago|||
Your app doesn't really have prompts, it's just an MCP server that can also serve react components.
frumplestlatz 6 days ago||
Technically MCP servers can have prompts that get exposed as user commands (/<name>) in apps like Claude Code.
inetknght 6 days ago||
Why should developers' prompts be proprietary at all?
mertysn 6 days ago||
I wouldn't say it has to be proprietary. Nevertheless, it's the information asymmetry that benefits the maintainer. One would have no incentive to publish there if their revenue stream can be easily cloned.
johnwheeler 5 days ago||
Who in the hell would trust someone like Sam Altman with this? Idea poacher. That's what they should call the program.
ivape 6 days ago||
Can’t really figure out if it’s a paid App Store or not. I suppose I can have them buy a license externally and have the agent validate that.
9rx 6 days ago|
Not right now.

    In this early phase, developers can link out from their ChatGPT apps to their own websites or native apps
    to complete transactions for physical goods. We’re exploring additional monetization options over time,
    including digital goods, and will share more as we learn from how developers and users build and engage.
sublinear 6 days ago||
Sounds like vaporware. Any deeper integration beyond in-chat summaries of the actions taken and otherwise linking out would probably be a nightmare.
Eldodi 6 days ago||
Will be interesting how difficult the submission process will be, and which apps will get featured by chatgpt.

Maybe an ad based system coming soon?

StarterPro 6 days ago||
Once again I have to ask: Aren't we just obfuscating everything to the point of knowledge loss?

Between long COVID and ai, nobody will be able to make fizzbuzz in Java, let alone code a frontend by hand.

ben_w 5 days ago||
> Between long COVID and ai, nobody will be able to make fizzbuzz in Java, let alone code a frontend by hand.

I've been doing front-end stuff since getting free trials/demos of Dreamweaver and of the mac equivalent of Visual Basic* on a magazine cover CD with pocket money while in high school in the 90s.

IMO, the stuff you need on your CV as a front-end developer, is much less productive than the stuff we had back in the late 90s. Well, except for localisation (while Unicode technically existed back then, support for it seemed to be minimal) and version control. Everything else feels like a regression that has only been partially compensated for by hardware and network speed improvements.

If anything, AI will let us go back to actually performant systems, because the AI doesn't need to show off how many years of experience it has with Gorebyss-on-Arvados (or whatever other buzzword bingo you want to insert here).

* Now this, thanks to a rebrand: https://www.xojo.com

manuelmoreale 6 days ago||
Or think critically. Or write proper emails. Or a multitude of other things. Why bother when you can outsource everything to the computer. If this trend continues is gonna be interesting to see how people will evolve in 10 or 15 years.
TeMPOraL 6 days ago||
It's kind of the point of the computers.

It may not seem like it now, but that's because a big chunk of software industry is making money on introducing friction, and preventing automation, because the user interface that sits between a person and some outcome they desire, makes for a perfect marketing channel.

manuelmoreale 6 days ago||
> It's kind of the point of the computers.

It kind of isn't? If I read your comment and rather than taking the time to think about what you said and respond to you I simply prompted one of the many tools to "write a comment that disagrees with TeMPOraL" something would be lost.

And the point of the computer is not to replace me everywhere it can. Also, automating something is one thing. It requires deliberate actions. Outsourcing is another thing.

tantalor 6 days ago||
Hey why not? It work for Facebook, right?

Wait, no...

altmanaltman 6 days ago||
Can't wait for mainstream media to run with headlines like "ChatGPT opens app store, should Google be scared for their Playstore?" smh
digitaltrees 6 days ago||
They. Will. Steal. Anything. That. Works.
FergusArgyll 6 days ago|
Explain how they will "steal" these apps? (currently available):

Adobe Photoshop AllTrails Booking.com Expedia Instacart OpenTable Spotify Tripadvisor Airtable Apple Music Canva Figma Lovable Replit Target Zillow

TeMPOraL 6 days ago|||
All of those, for many or most users, would be best used as tool calls to ChatGPT. That takes care of all the hold those companies have over users, which they use to extract money. As for stealing the useful parts:

- Adobe Photoshop, Canva, Figma, Replit, Lovable - are all kinds of Computer Aided creation tools, and once converted into tool calls, can be gradually reproduced and replaced feature by feature.

- The rest, they're just fancy (and user disempowering) wrappers around proprietary databases and/or API calls to humans. Those cannot be trivially reproduced, because code is neither their secret sauce, nor their source of value. But they can still be pressured into becoming tool calls along with competition, and subsequently commoditized.

ben_w 5 days ago|||
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burnto 6 days ago|
They are unfocused. Need to stop with the mba playbook moves like this and just make the model worth paying for.
empiko 6 days ago||
They don't have any more juice left to squeeze at that front. The lack of new ideas in LMs is pretty palpable by now. There is a bunch of companies with billions invested in them that are all just looking at each other, trying to figure out what to do.
throwthrowuknow 6 days ago||
Both Anthropic and Google have clear directions. Anthropic is trying to corner the software developer market and succeeding, Google is doing deep integration with their existing products. There’s also Deepseek who seem hell bent on making the cheapest SotA models and supplying the models people can use for research on applications. Even Grok is fairly mission focused on with X integration.
Libidinalecon 6 days ago|||
"We need to put out maximum press releases to stay relevant because all we have is the brand" seems to be the strategy.

To me, that is a tell they are basically cooked because catching Google in actual model performance is not really the position anyone would want to be in here in a horse race.

kevin061 6 days ago||
I remember the headlines, a year ago or so. Something like "How Google built the first LLM but then shelved it due to risk and unprofitability and lost the AI race"

Interesting times we live in.

an0malous 6 days ago|||
You’re thinking like an entrepreneur, Sam thinks like a VC. For them it’s easier to sell 100 half assed ideas that could be worth a trillion dollars than to have one refined idea that’s “only” worth $10B.
alexashka 6 days ago||
> They are unfocused

Stop with the MBA playbook he said.

> just make the...

Just make a superior product he said.

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