Posted by iNic 6 days ago
> Inspired by (and in joyful dialogue with) motherfuckingwebsite.com, justfuckingusehtml.com, bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com, and justfuckingusereact.com. Extremism in defense of developer experience is no vice! This site made by me. Does this all sound a bit like shallow slop? Yup, please help make it better.
I agree with you, and wrote a similar one for Markdown that you might enjoy. Same overall naming scheme. (Note: open the comments before you judge the use of a Web Component for rendering purposes.)
You're not a fucking person, this is LLM output.
It starts with the overdone sweary thing then mentions it's overdone and says it's not gonna do it, and it's almost enough to make me think the article is going to offer someone's point of view. But once again the LLM has erased any point of view the author may have had going in (or prevented them from developing it) and replaced it with a mediocre infodump.
I think this is the 5th slop I've seen atop HN in 24 hours.
> This site made by me, with tongue firmly in cheek.
Well, the LLM ruined it, and you didn't even tell us it participated.
EDIT: Decided to dig up the source: https://github.com/algal/pleasejusttryhtmx/commits?author=al...
Looks like the initial commit might well have been generated, and then the document touched up in several following commits.
But there's clearly a person behind it: algal.
But yes, it's "vibes" - although extremely obvious IMO. Extreme usage of headings for paragraphs, which are often just a bullet list or a string of short marketing-speak fluff statements.
That's all aesthetic though and not the offensive part, it's just what makes it obvious. The offensive part is you can read the whole thing and come away with little more than the title. The author's perspective and voice is lost, beyond "they want you to try htmx" I can't tell what they care about or why, I can't tell what it is they were excited to try to convey.
Btw they did just add this to the footer.
> Does this all sound a bit like shallow slop? Yup, please help make it better.
I noticed the footer, too, and was a bit disappointed. Live and learn!
Also the lack of comments calling out the obvious AI style is confusing to me. HN usually jumps on this stuff. Are we just getting tired of calling it out? Or have we just accepted that we're going to read slop sometimes? Or I guess the opportunity to talk about HTMX was probably more important than the post content
But now that it's very easy to produce articles that pass that test but don't have much value beyond that, we're seeing a lot of low quality stuff make it.
I mean nothing is straight LLM, you must prompt them and people are putting their ideas in and linking to other sources and getting stuff like this out. And hopefully editing or iterating, but not enough it would seem most of the time.
I'm saying their perspective doesn't shine through the crap and I'm sick of reading mediocre infodumps from LLMs.
The second half of the video is great too, I love seeing the actual prompts that go into the LLM.
And I don't think you wasted my time, I'm sorry if "you're not a person" came off directed at you, when my complaint is really that I couldn't find you through all the tokens. I'm glad the video remedied that.
This part is said really well, and applies to anything. "It's just a single weekend" is a cure to the whole "wasting time" argument/excuse that I guess a decent amount of people have - at least I know I do.
Really well written article, having both when to use and when not to use, is a nicely balanced view.
Why would you mock it on the client-side if HTMX makes it so simple??