Systemd v259 - Hacker News

Posted by voxadam 12/18/2025

91 points | 109 commentspage 2

Levitating 12/19/2025|

glad to see the varlink IPC expanded upon

phendrenad2 12/19/2025||

Surprising to see how many people are still mucking around with init systems. Shows that k8s really has a lot more adoption left to go.

mentos1386 12/19/2025|

As a long time K8S user and general fan of. Systemd nas defenetly itd own place in the world, for one, št least to start up your k8s nodes. But more and more i have started to rely more on it for any non k8s workload (yes those exist and always will).

egorfine 12/19/2025||

It's time for a new, leaner init system. systemd became an os of it's own.

hulitu 12/19/2025||

Wait, what ? The next logical step is combine systemd with wayland.

egorfine 12/19/2025||

And rewrite it in rust while we're at it.

TZubiri 12/20/2025||

It's actually time for an old init system, check out devuan.org

Works absolutely fine.

egorfine 12/20/2025||

Unfortunately it's a dead end. The world standardized so much on the systemd it's not worth fighting anymore.

Although the hell is going to freeze before I switch to their timers instead of cron.

TZubiri 12/20/2025||

I don't think of it much as fighting, but rather as just using devuan. Half of the defenses against any criticism in open source is "you can just fork it/not use it", so here we are.

It's fine, literally nothing happens if you just don't use systemd.

egorfine 12/20/2025||

Unfortunately this ship has sailed and we all have to pick our battles. I for one submitted to our lord systemd but I'm far from loyal.

nottorp 12/18/2025||

What has it taken over this time?

Mikhail_K 12/18/2025||

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orangeboats 12/18/2025|

Can we put a stop to this weird obsession with attacking Pottering under _every_ systemd-related thread?

Fine, we get it, you don't like him. Or you don't like systemd. Whichever it is, comments like yours often provide zero substance to the discussion.

nicolaslem 12/18/2025|||

Maybe I have been here too long but I can guess exactly the content of each thread about systemd/Gnome/Wayland/Firefox before opening the link.

Klonoar 12/19/2025||

Apple and Electron are similar topics that belong on that list.

sam_lowry_ 12/18/2025||||

I agree emotionally, but OTOH we should not forget about the incentives of people and the history of projects.

beanjuiceII 12/18/2025||

the project is largely successful though, supporting linux has been way more pain when we have to do it for non systemd systems.. but i guess good news is we just charge customers more for their niche setups

McDyver 12/18/2025||||

I agree with your 2nd statement, but people should bring up things that should be discussed.

Otherwise, at some point, one of the 10000 [0] won't know there are alternatives and different ways of doing things.

[0] https://xkcd.com/1053/

fleroviumna 12/18/2025|||

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TZubiri 12/20/2025||

Devuan.org

greatgib 12/20/2025|

Systemd, breaking perfectly working systems at update like always...