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Posted by tosh 12/18/2025

Are Apple gift cards safe to redeem?(daringfireball.net)
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fishywang 12/18/2025|
lol I have another story regarding Apple gift cards.

Many years ago we had an iMac at the house as the shared desktop computer. After a few years, it started to have the signs that the harddisk is going to fail, and also we were mostly moved away from Apple's ecosystem, so we decided to trade it in and replace it with something else that's not from Apple.

Since we don't have anything immediate to buy from Apple, we traded it in with Apple gift cards.

Later, my partner needed to trade in an old iPad for a new one, so we used that gift card with credit card for the trade in. For that trade in, you first pay the full price with gift card+credit card, then they refund you the trade-in value after the trade-in is finalized.

The trade-in value of the old iPad is less than the value we paid via credit card, so we would reasonably assume that they would refund the total trade-in value to our credit card. But nope. They actually calculated the original gift card vs. credit card split ratio, and refunded according to that ratio.

A simplified example is say we paid $200 via gift card plus $300 via credit card for an $500 iPad, with trade-in value of $200 for the old iPad. Instead of refunding $200 to our credit card (so it's eventually $200 via gift card and $100 via credit card), they refunded us $120 to credit card and gave us another $80 gift card. So we have to find ways to spend that gift card again, and it cannot involve any trade-in (otherwise we're not going to be able to use it fully).

paulpauper 12/18/2025||
The vast majority of people have no problem using them or else we'd be reading more posts similar to that one
wrxd 12/18/2025|
Yet I don’t want to play lottery with hardware I paid thousands of dollars for and with an account that holds hostage a lot of my data and digital purchases.

I’m even fine with big tech having great powers but that needs to be counter balanced by regulations forcing them to be accountable

michael1999 12/19/2025||
Betteridge’s law wins again. The answer is obviously “no”.

Apple does not dispute they locked this man’s entire digital life without recourse because he suffered a fraud, and he only recovered because famous people intervened. You’d be insane to risk that.

stivatron 12/18/2025||
DO NOT REDEEEEEEEEM
usefulcat 12/18/2025||
Best example I've yet seen of Betteridge's law.
IAmBroom 12/18/2025||
Related: there is a known scam where someone will ask for payment by things like Ebay gift cards. To "prove you have the card", you are asked to read off just the last few digits of the card - which unbeknownst to the intended victim is actually all that is needed to redeem the card.

You can reliably reconstruct a SSN that is missing the first digits, if you know where the person lived when they filed for it, but that's not the same thing.

Why Ebay built this idiotic weakness into their cards is beyond me.

jkaplowitz 12/18/2025||
> You can reliably reconstruct a SSN that is missing the first digits, if you know where the person lived when they filed for it, but that's not the same thing.

This used to be true, but isn’t for SSNs assigned since I think 2011 - the exact year could be wrong, that’s from memory. Since that switch, the component that used to be geographical is assigned randomly.

IAmBroom 12/18/2025||
A wise move, IMO. The geographic thing made sense, pre-internet: our local office assigns only number that start "477-", and no other office does, so we can control for duplicate assignments.
zahlman 12/18/2025||
> Related: there is a known scam where someone will ask for payment by things like Ebay gift cards. To "prove you have the card", you are asked to read off just the last few digits of the card - which unbeknownst to the intended victim is actually all that is needed to redeem the card.

I'm not following. If things have gotten this far, the victim has already been duped into buying the card and intends to send it to the scammers anyway... ?

But also, how could the card possibly work that way? What are the other digits even for; and wouldn't they quickly run out of valid "last few digit" combinations for issued cards?

IAmBroom 12/19/2025||
> I'm not following. If things have gotten this far, the victim has already been duped into buying the card and intends to send it to the scammers anyway... ?

Yes, the mark has essentially fallen for the scam, but not yet arrived for the goods... which don't actually exist.

> But also, how could the card possibly work that way? What are the other digits even for; and wouldn't they quickly run out of valid "last few digit" combinations for issued cards?

Exactly why I hate that Ebay uses their insipid coding schema. I'm not explaining why they do it, because I can't.

venturecruelty 12/18/2025||
No, obviously... What?
ghjv 12/18/2025||
regardless of the resolution of Paris' case, at this point I doubt sincerely I will ever willingly purchase an Apple gift card. To be frank, most gift cards are persona non grata for myself and ~all discerning consumers I know
mmmlinux 12/18/2025|
wow, what fear mongering going on here.