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Posted by artninja1988 12/18/2025

How China built its ‘Manhattan Project’ to rival the West in AI chips(www.japantimes.co.jp)
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christkv 12/19/2025|
Reverse-engineered is a nice way of writing stole.
shevy-java 12/19/2025||
And the prices go up ...

They really need to pay us all compensation money. And I mean literally EVERY single company that has been responsible for driving the RAM prices up. Free market my ... ...

mmmBacon 12/19/2025||
Sure, by the time China clones this generation of tin droplet ASML EUV machines at production scale, the market will have shifted to free-electron lasers.
pxc 12/18/2025||
It seems extremely dishonest to frame the project of improving computer chip manufacturing to the development of weapons of mass destruction— weapons that went on to be used against civilians. Sensationalist and propagandistic framing for what is otherwise an interesting article.
jandrewrogers 12/18/2025|
The term 'Manhattan Project' is a common and widely used metaphor for R&D programs with effectively unlimited resources applied to them. The actual Manhattan Project is simply a very famous exemplar of such a program.

Use of that term is not propaganda, it's normal English.

theautist 12/18/2025|||
It's not just about the use of the term "Manhattan Project". It's about the framing and wording of the article. There is literally an image of a PRC soldier in front of a rocket in the article.
pxc 12/18/2025|||
When referring to the efforts nation-states, I'd be very interested to hear how often such metaphorical usage is used to describe the work of adversarial vs. friendly countries. I would be shocked if it's as often (in the Anglophone press) used to describe the work of US-aligned countries as it is that of US-adversarial countries.
random9749832 12/18/2025||
This is literally by the country that suffered the most from it.
ptx 12/19/2025||
Well, the description is attributed to "two people with knowledge of the project" of unclear national origin.
HardCodedBias 12/19/2025||
Never forget the continual parade of "experts" when the chip ban was being promoted who all said in unison:

"China is 20 years behind"

Horribly dishonest. But they all talked in lockstep: lawmakers + "experts".

matt3210 12/19/2025||
Correction: sanctions worked and now they’re building better chips than us
pdude444 12/18/2025||
archive link??
madars 12/18/2025|
It's quite easy to do it yourself - just open archive.is and paste the original URL in.

https://archive.is/tKZmn

FWIW, this seems to be a Reuters report reprinted in Japan Times. Previous HN discussions got just a couple comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46301877 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46307819

sharas- 12/19/2025||
"the people said"
sapphirebreeze 12/19/2025|
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