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Posted by artninja1988 5 days ago

How China built its ‘Manhattan Project’ to rival the West in AI chips(www.japantimes.co.jp)
469 points | 605 commentspage 4
christkv 5 days ago|
Reverse-engineered is a nice way of writing stole.
mmmBacon 4 days ago||
Sure, by the time China clones this generation of tin droplet ASML EUV machines at production scale, the market will have shifted to free-electron lasers.
shevy-java 5 days ago||
And the prices go up ...

They really need to pay us all compensation money. And I mean literally EVERY single company that has been responsible for driving the RAM prices up. Free market my ... ...

pxc 5 days ago||
It seems extremely dishonest to frame the project of improving computer chip manufacturing to the development of weapons of mass destruction— weapons that went on to be used against civilians. Sensationalist and propagandistic framing for what is otherwise an interesting article.
jandrewrogers 5 days ago|
The term 'Manhattan Project' is a common and widely used metaphor for R&D programs with effectively unlimited resources applied to them. The actual Manhattan Project is simply a very famous exemplar of such a program.

Use of that term is not propaganda, it's normal English.

theautist 5 days ago|||
It's not just about the use of the term "Manhattan Project". It's about the framing and wording of the article. There is literally an image of a PRC soldier in front of a rocket in the article.
pxc 5 days ago|||
When referring to the efforts nation-states, I'd be very interested to hear how often such metaphorical usage is used to describe the work of adversarial vs. friendly countries. I would be shocked if it's as often (in the Anglophone press) used to describe the work of US-aligned countries as it is that of US-adversarial countries.
random9749832 5 days ago||
This is literally by the country that suffered the most from it.
ptx 5 days ago||
Well, the description is attributed to "two people with knowledge of the project" of unclear national origin.
HardCodedBias 4 days ago||
Never forget the continual parade of "experts" when the chip ban was being promoted who all said in unison:

"China is 20 years behind"

Horribly dishonest. But they all talked in lockstep: lawmakers + "experts".

matt3210 5 days ago||
Correction: sanctions worked and now they’re building better chips than us
pdude444 5 days ago||
archive link??
madars 5 days ago|
It's quite easy to do it yourself - just open archive.is and paste the original URL in.

https://archive.is/tKZmn

FWIW, this seems to be a Reuters report reprinted in Japan Times. Previous HN discussions got just a couple comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46301877 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46307819

sharas- 5 days ago||
"the people said"
sapphirebreeze 5 days ago|
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