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Posted by barry-cotter 5 days ago

Oliver Sacks put himself into his case studies – what was the cost?(www.newyorker.com)
https://archive.ph/0MFPK
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lloydjones 5 days ago|
I feel that his pretentious, overwrought and unctuous writing was perhaps all because of an emptiness or inadequacy… His final years as a nice old gay man seem much more _normal_ and real, and he seems less of a fantasist at that stage…
abstractspoon 5 days ago||
Anyone seeking fame must be considered suspect
Ambolia 12/12/2025||
Steven Pinker on this article:

>https://x.com/sapinker/status/1999297395478106310

>"Bombshell: Oliver Sacks (a humane man & a fine essayist) made up many of the details in his famous case studies, deluding neuroscientists, psychologists, & general readers for decades. The man who mistook his wife for a hat? The autistic twins who generated multi-digit prime numbers? The institutionalized, paralyzed man who tapped out allusions to Rilke? Made up to embellish the stories. Probably also: the aphasic patients who detected lies better than neurologically intact people, including Ronald Reagan's insincerity."

netfortius 5 days ago||
Pinker's tweet is how I actually ended up reading the article, then searching on HN for a possible related post. I read Sacks' major books, and I was always surprised by what I thought being his talent to romanticize real life. I guess it was too good to be (completely) true, after all :(
thaw13579 5 days ago||
Curious why this comment is being flagged if anyone minds explaining.
rendaw 12/9/2025||
Subtitle

> The scientist was famous for linking healing with storytelling. Sometimes that meant reshaping patients’ reality.

TLDR

> after her grandmother’s death...she becomes decisive, joining a theatre group.... in the transcripts... [she] never joins a theatre group or emerges from her despair.

AFAICT the quote above is the only thing directly relevant to the title.

From what I read, skimming through the article, it paints Sacks as being a delusion driven emotional romantic and was practicing some sort of cult medicine, but I can't tell how much of that is reality and how much is NYT's ridiculously flowery embellishing of everything.

burningChrome 12/9/2025||
I agree that its a hard read, and seemingly never got to the point of the title of the article. I started reading it and by about the eighth or nineth paragraph the article was still ruminating on his gay love affair so I just skimmed the rest and I couldn't make heads or tails of the rest of it either.

Its shocking how bad some writers are these days.

paleotrope 12/9/2025|||
If you go further, the whole thing wraps around. His suppression of his own sexuality, led him to embellish, to write out his own internal dialogue into the "nonfiction" books he wrote. So it all eventually comes back to the thesis, but yes, it's a huge drag to read through, but then Sacks' own writing is so turgid and overly dramatic, like he was writing for an audience.

The first sentence too is apt, "butter colored suit that reminded him of the sun" is a great example of Sacks' writing style.

giraffe_lady 12/9/2025||||
I love when the new yorker gets posted to HN because of how many people will proudly announce themselves not equal to the challenge of a mainstream middlebrow magazine article.
shermantanktop 12/9/2025|||
That description (mainstream middlebrow) would have been accurate in 1980. I don't think it is anymore.

Long form journalism is not a common thing anymore, men (who dominate HN) are not enthusiastic readers anymore, and the cultural conversation that a dead-tree magazine represents is no longer amplified in mass media (as opposed to an era when David Frost and Dick Cavett had primetime shows on TV).

I don't disagree about the reverse snobbery, but IMO people being "not equal to the challenge" isn't the actual problem.

burningChrome 12/9/2025||||
I love most of their stuff and the writing is pretty eloquent as it takes you on a journey that's easy to follow and flows easily from one paragraph to another.

This was just a slog that I felt went nowhere and the points were buried in between rambling information about Sacks and his gay lifestyle, lovers and living in NYC and the gay lifestyle there at the time.

Not only was it not interesting, it was poorly written and hard to read. Sometimes writers just need to stick to the facts instead of trying to write another "The Phenomenology of Spirit" for a "middlebrow magazine".

stevenwoo 12/9/2025|||
I read four other articles in this week's New Yorker by the time I got to this one and the problem it has is we are probably at this point all familiar with the story of a gay person coming to accept themselves and there was nothing new in this version for a very long time so when it belabors the point there is a real danger to losing the audience, I read the magazine just prior to bed and gave up on this one after first attempt, enjoyed the rest of the magazine (even some of the culture articles about New York residents) and came back to this article and fell asleep.
kritiko 5 days ago|||
This was sticking to the facts - this is original research into Sacks’ letters and unpublished writing. It’s for readers who read Sacks in the New Yorker and want to see another side of his life.
quesera 12/9/2025||||
I don't think it's as revealing as you suggest.

Writers write, and editors edit, for an audience. HN is definitely not a perfect match for the New Yorker's intended audience.

But most readers of the New Yorker would choke on the kind of stuff that is perfectly aligned with HN's readership, so...

CPLX 12/9/2025||||
Exactly.

It's the equivalent of those people on Reddit or social media in general who make fun of three-star Michelin restaurants.

I get that sometimes you just want McDonald's, and I don't think there is a definition of better and worse in either of these contexts that doesn't require injecting some kind of taste. But nonetheless.

expedition32 12/9/2025|||
In a few decades reading will be a lost art. Yes the stats are really that worrying.
kryptiskt 12/9/2025||||
If anything is shocking it is how modern readers have to be spoon fed bullet points and can't handle the slightest complexity of composition.
tim333 12/10/2025||
It might be that modern readers have other things they can read/do with their time. In pre internet times it wasn't so much the case - you'd buy a mag or book and then read it but now there are many alternatives a click away.

Pros and cons but often in the old days it was spun out to fill some volume the the printing press was set for like 400 pages in a book. I did Great Expectations at school which had about ten chapters with the main story and then about 60 chapters of irrelevant stuff because Dickens was paid weekly by the chapter.

RodgerTheGreat 12/9/2025||||
The New Yorker's primary editorial thrust has always been that the author is more important than the subject, and the journey is more important than having a thesis at all.
IAmBroom 5 days ago||
Thank you. You've just summed it up for me. <chef's kiss>
cryzinger 12/9/2025||||
Respectfully, I'm not sure you can draw meaningful conclusions about a 100+ paragraph deep-dive article after reading the first eight or nine. The biography stuff is definitely relevant to the takeaways about Sacks' methodology and style:

> Other doctors had dismissed these patients as hopeless, but Sacks had sensed that they still had life in them—a recognition that he understood was possible because he, too, felt as if he were “buried alive.”

[...]

> Another patient is so aroused and euphoric that she tells Sacks [according to his telling in Awakenings], “My blood is champagne”—the phrase Sacks used to describe himself when he was in love with Vincze.

[...]

> “I know, in a way, you don’t feel like living,” Sacks tells her, in another recorded session. “Part of one feels dead inside, I know, I know that. . . . One feels that one wants to die, one wants to end it, and what’s the use of going on?”

> “I don’t mean it in that way,” she responds.

> “I know, but you do, partly,” Sacks tells her. “I know you have been lonely all your life.”

RC_ITR 12/9/2025|||
Speaking of suboptimal writing, why call it a 'gay' love affair, when he was openly gay?
Matterless 12/9/2025|||
One of the most important details of Sacks's life which dogged him nearly to the end (and which is important to this NY piece), was a minimization by Sacks of his own sexuality. He was not "openly gay" at all.
BeetleB 5 days ago|||
For most of his life, he was not openly gay.
AdamN 12/9/2025|||
Just a nit but it's the New Yorker, not the NYT.
cryzinger 12/9/2025|||
Also worth noting that the New Yorker published a lot of essays from Sacks when he was alive. So there's a sort of meta thing happening here with a biography of one of their famous contributors.
AdamN 12/11/2025||
Yeah he was the consummate neurotic New Yorker writing for the New Yorker and now in death he has been woven directly into the New Yorker.
usednet 12/9/2025|||
A responsible journalist can't say directly that Sacks was a confabulist but they can point out facts and allow the reader to infer. That's what the article does. There are many facts in the article that are relevant to the title in this sense (the prime number twins, the journal entries about Hat, etc.).

I also don't agree with your interpretation of what the article is trying to paint Sacks as, though of course you are entitled to it.

I think the the point of the article is to articulate what Sacks himself said:

> "As Sacks aged, he felt as if he were gazing at people from the outside. But he also noticed a new kind of affection for humans—“homo sap.” “They’re quite complex (little) creatures (I say to myself),” he wrote in his journal. “They suffer, authentically, a good deal. Gifted, too. Brave, resourceful, challenging.”"

tomcam 12/9/2025||
Haven’t read the article yet, but I love the respect with which you pointed out your differences to GP. thank you.
devilbunny 12/9/2025||
As a general rule, neurologists are an odd bunch. I'm married to one; I've met lots of them at her conferences.
ajb 12/10/2025||
The stereotype, which is sometimes true, is that people do that kind of degree because they want to understand and solve their own issues. Those who are are interested in people as such, can be more drawn to anthropology.
devilbunny 12/10/2025||
More true of psychiatry than neurology, though there is of course some overlap. The running joke in neurology is that neurologists are left-handed migraneurs/euses.

I was once at a small dinner talk by a well-respected headache specialist, surrounded by a dozen neurologists. He asked, "How many here have chronic headaches?" Every hand went up except mine and the drug rep's.

readthenotes1 12/13/2025|||
Not shocked.

"Science" of the 1900s was heavily influenced by people willing to do whatever it took to achieve fame or fortune.

The replication crisis is the result.

tjwebbnorfolk 12/13/2025||
Humans are not magically better now just because the calendar reads 2025 instead of 1900. Much of what academics do today is not science either.

Journals are filled with supposedly scientific publications, but actually producing new scientific knowledge is really difficult and rare.

There's a lot of garbage in there.

shrubble 12/13/2025|||
Sacks wrote from 1970 through to 2015; so more recent than just the fusty old 1900s…
Aurornis 12/13/2025|||
> "Science" of the 1900s was heavily influenced by people willing to do whatever it took to achieve fame or fortune.

Scientific research of the 1900s made incredible improvements in medicine and technology. Most of the researchers and scientists weren't trying to be famous or extraordinarily wealthy.

The people you see pursuing fame and fortune, writing books, doing podcast tours, and all of the other fame and fortune tricks are a very small minority. Yes, people in that minority have often been discovered as writing stories that sound good to readers instead of the much more boring truth. However, most people doing science and research aren't even operating in this world of selling stories, books, and narratives to the general public. Typecasting all of "science" based on the few people you see chasing fame and fortune would be a mistake

B1FF_PSUVM 12/13/2025||
> "Science" of the 1900s

Science of any kind, looked at dispassionately, is more of a cult than we're prepared to admit. Not a discussion we're going to have any time soon, not until the miracles run out.

rixed 12/13/2025||
Could you leave us some hints about what you are alluding to ?

Or even better, clearly and honestly spell out what you actually think?

christoph 12/13/2025||
I can’t speak for the author, but I attended a science conference earlier this year that was almost half science, half healing/meditation workshops. I’m not going to name names, but there were some pretty big academic names there who also have clearly woken up to modern science being more than a bit cult like. Research a couple of areas of science that are currently verboten and see who & what you find there maybe?

It’s just quiet whispers in small conferences at the moment, but this is how the breaking of all spells begins. The momentum is & will continue to build, and probably quicker than many imagine (or will like!).

rixed 12/13/2025|||
Would you mind naming the exact field or the topic of the conference?

Because of course "science" is a term that's been quite often usurped by all kind of snake oil sellers, but that's nothing new is it?

karmakurtisaani 12/13/2025|||
This sounds vaguely terrifying!
Akasazh 12/13/2025|||
I think the title doesn't really give a good impression of the contents of the article.

The article spends most time on evolution Sacks' homosexual identity and struggle with sexuality and repression.

His uncertainty and melancholical bouts maar him question his own work and make the author conclude him 'putting himself in his work'.

However very little evidence is presented. Most insinuated about is 'awakenings' yet even in that case it's hard to reach conclusions.

The author plays of his perennial self-doubt as aan admission, but there's very scant evidence about him actually making up stories.

I'm not saying his method is our isn't flawed, it's just that the title belies the story. The struggle with his sexuality is the main subject and only small bits are about his uncertainty of his work.