It's so powerful, especially with the JScript scripting language. Such a powerful tool.
The closest free alternative is https://www.mitmproxy.org/ that is not even close.
And off course, https://www.wireshark.org/ but that is too generic and with a bigger learning curve.
Worth the money. And no subscription (or there weren't a subscription back then)
Did post the source somewhere at some point but my git server got corrupted and I haven't gone and fixed it. https://github.com/acheong08/apple-corelocation-experiments/...
I wonder if AI is good enough to vibe code my horrible hacks into a full clone of Charles Proxy these days.
Annoying fact: Apple requires you to have a paid developer account to access the Packet Tunnel APIs. You can't even test it in XCode simulator because of how networking works in there. It's insane that I can't even develop for my own phone without paying an extra fee to Apple. The error message when you sideload without a paid account doesn't make it obvious at all and it took me a good day or two before realizing .
A Linux phone can’t come fast enough. Yes there is at least one, on ancient hardware. IMO a viable Linux phone requires hardware at most one generation old.
Android with binder is a strictly superior architecture that anything else that has come for strict isolation. As a bonus, it's battle tested, and latest Android phones just... run linux. You can have a shell and GTK if you so desire.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/bringing-desktop-linux-...
https://source.android.com/docs/whatsnew/android-16-release#...
While this is mostly a KVM setup, there's nothing specific about Android that prevents a linux userspace from running in there. Each app is almost one already. Most of its core components have been integrated into linux's main repository (like binder), and AOSP isn't that far off from a regular Linux. Sure, zygote, user & power management are not exactly a standard install, but they're not that crazy either
What sort of tradeoffs would I see? Performance? Battery life? Security (secure enclave access?)
While vibe coding will get you something that potentially works, I've noticed LLMs are really bad at cleanly abstracting across multiple layers in this area. They usually will insist on parsing and serializing every field at every layer.
If you have the protocols/interfaces well defined up front it is very fast at building extensions, analytics or visualizations though.
Which makes sense, as most developers are too (it’s a particular non-trivial skill and rarely modeled wrll), so LLMs are more likely to be trained on muddled multiple layers.
The packet tunnel story is crazy. I'm glad Android allows you to just use network APIs without question as a developer.
I then flip on WireGuard on my phone, pointed to mitmproxy, and seamlessly all traffic from my phone is decrypted and viewable through the website on my computer.
Except of-course all the applications these days that do certificate pinning, which is annoying, but for that we have Frida.
Burp Suite uses a subscription model. Charles a model like Sublime Text: you buy it and get to keep the version forever, major upgrades available for a discount.
I had to chuckle at this one:
> If you purchased a Charles license prior to 1 May 2008 your existing license key is still valid for Charles 5.
So I guess in past they used a model where you'd have lifetime upgrades.
Which also made me think: I recognize this name! This has to be an older piece of software. Was it published on Freshmeat in the start of this century?
There's also some TUI for Wireshark, such as frontends for tshark. I think [1] looks interesting, since it can be used with a local LLM (via Ollama).
- Burp Proxy
- Wireshark, tshark
[1] without an elaborate setup, your program needs to be instructed to dump TLS encryption keys for Wireshark to read
Have mitmproxy gotten any better in usability over the years?
Just based on the images, is seems to have the same problems?
The new-ish "Local Capture" and "WireGuard"-mode are quite nice.
And running e.g. `mitmproxy --ignore-hosts '.*' --show-ignored-hosts` [1] for monitoring apps with certificate pinning also a new feature
[1] cmd will turn mitmproxy into a "non-MITM proxy" but do show domains (SNI) the app is connecting to.
Maybe I should do a fork and try to fix it again
I recently had the IT team at my work ban VNC client, they didn't understand it wasn't VNC server, which I could understand being a security risk, but the client? They're idiots.
Charles is a http proxy, Requestly judging by the landing page is a http client like Postman.
I tried using proxyman for a while, and while definitely powerful and more modern, it honestly didn't feel "better" or more powerful so I didn't go for yet another license.
This goes without saying, but huge thanks to the both developers for making these available.
Does it work for Xcode simulators?
I use Charles extensively (I am using it for the development I’m doing right now), and it needs to work on simulators.
Cost isn’t an issue for me. Fitness to purpose is important. I won’t cripple my development capacity, in order to save $50.
Not trying to do an ad, but really glad I don‘t have to think about that anymore :)
Thanks!
Obligatory Ten Thousand reference: https://xkcd.com/1053/
It even bypasses SSL pinning on Android using 1 click.
I’m on proxyman https://proxyman.com/