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Posted by bookofjoe 12/20/2025

Over 40% of deceased drivers in vehicle crashes test positive for THC: Study(www.facs.org)
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hermannj314 12/20/2025|
I need to know the rates in the general driving population before I can assume driving high is dangerous.
throw20251220 12/20/2025||
That may mean a lot of things. Maybe non-smokers got good at eliminating people who recently smoked.
cubefox 12/20/2025||
Could this mean that THC is more dangerous for vehicle safety than alcohol?
pixl97 12/20/2025||
With this information alone, no we cannot tell.

For example if we took random samples of the population and tested them for marijuana usage, what percentage would test positive?

Next, this study is only talking about marijuana testing, how many of the same group also tested positive for alcohol (or other impairing drugs). Lets make up fake numbers and say 60% of total fatalities had alcohol or other impairing drugs and the overlap between them and marijuana use was 80% then marijuana is rather insignificant.

We have to have all the details so we don't fall into a base rate fallacy.

dragonwriter 12/20/2025|||
Well, its the wrong universe of analysis to make that claim and there is no comparative measure of alcohol exposure in the same universe of analysis so it also fails to provide a basis for any alcohol/THC comparison, so, no?
reop2whiskey 12/20/2025||
It is entirely possible THC is more dangerous for vehicle safety than alcohol and that wouldn’t surprise me. But based on this study alone? No.
iLoveOncall 12/20/2025||
And what share of the remaining 60% were killed by the initial 40%?
kube-system 12/20/2025|
And likewise, what share of that 40% were killed by the other 60%? Fault was not evaluated here.
mperham 12/20/2025||
Phones are by far the biggest source of dangerous driving.
theturtle 12/20/2025||
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witte 12/20/2025||
This feels like we’re missing a dimension or threeve, the one that comes to mind immediately would be whether or not the deceased driver was at fault for the incident.
kube-system 12/20/2025|
Yeah, drug use is also influenced by social and economic status, which also influences driving risks. People of lower socioeconomic status drive less safe cars on less safe roads for longer commutes. This is something valid to evaluate with a drug like THC which is detectable long after use. It would be nice to see the distribution of levels detected and not just the average.
Chris2048 12/20/2025||
> People of lower socioeconomic status drive less safe cars on less safe roads for longer commutes.

But can't you account for 'type of car', 'type of road', 'commute length' as direct variables pretty easily without dipping into social/economic backgrounds?

kube-system 12/20/2025|||
The socioeconomics of the situation is why I'm questioning it, not what I think would be best measured.

Although it certainly isn't "easy" to measure all of this directly; there are thousands of that constitute the type of driving scenario that someone might engage in. Even just "type of road" isn't a single thing, it's hundreds of things.

kenfichtler 12/21/2025||
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morpheos137 12/21/2025||
The push for marijuana normalization has been one of the stupidest things in recent memory. It's a drug as harmful as alcohol or nicotine if misused.
amazingman 12/20/2025|
Cant wait for this tissue-thin abstract to drive weeks and years of anti-cannabis nonsense.
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