New mathematical framework reshapes debate over simulation hypothesis

Posted by Gooblebrai 12/21/2025

New mathematical framework reshapes debate over simulation hypothesis(www.santafe.edu)

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tediousgraffit1 12/22/2025|

I Don't Know, Timmy, Being God Is a Big Responsibility https://qntm.org/responsibilit

skeledrew 12/21/2025||

A universe is a function. It only makes sense that a function can call other functions, including itself, ad infinitum. And a function may be called in the same or a different thread.

croes 12/21/2025||

Related?

> Consequences of Undecidability in Physics on the Theory of Everything

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45770754

boomskats 12/21/2025||

Zero cost abstractions! I'd almost be interested in Bostrom's inevitable physics-based counter (if he wasn't such a racist bellend).

moi2388 12/21/2025||

Yeah right. In infinite Turing machines maybe. If it’s finite, it’s impossible to simulate something larger with the same fidelity

thegrim000 12/21/2025||

Once again, discussion around the simulation hypothesis that for some reason assumes the simulating universe has the exact same laws of physics / reality as the simulated universe. Assuming that the simulated universe can use their mathematics to describe/constrain the simulator universe. It makes no sense to me.

bobbyschmidd 12/21/2025||

Someone did another 'Kleene-Turing' on the whole issue with "the origin"?

bad bad not good.

raverbashing 12/21/2025||

We can't even run docker inside docker without making things slower, the simulator hypotheses is frankly ridiculous

croes 12/21/2025||

You would be living inside docker and wouldn’t know how fast the outside is. Maybe lightspeed is a limit inflicted by the simulation.

lioeters 12/21/2025||

That's what a simulated universe running inside Docker would say.

BobbyTables2 12/22/2025|||

Nah, it runs on podman…

raverbashing 12/21/2025|||

Nobody is going to pay all those docker licenses /s

mw67 12/21/2025|

Funny people still call that "simulation hypothesis". At some point they should try to do some Past lives regressions or Out of body experience (astral projection). Then they'll know for sure what this reality is about.

qayxc 12/21/2025||

I would consider this if someone was able to demonstrate a way to distinguish these phenomena from altered states of mind (i.e. hallucinations). We know and can demonstrate that the human psyche can easily be manipulated in various ways (psychological manipulation, drugs, magnetic fields, sleep depravation, stress, etc.) to cause such experiences.

Some actual evidence for for "past life regressions" and "astral projection" would be nice...

gcost 12/21/2025||

PLR is real, read the works of Michael newton and others. Over 8000 PRL from people of all kind of age and background describe the same things happening once we pass on the other side. Definitely not hallucinations. Actually scary how people still think that instead of exploring for themselves.

qayxc 12/23/2025||

Newton was a hypnotherapist. I'm sorry to say this, but hypnosis is precisely the kind of altering a person's state of mind to make it highly susceptible to both deliberate and unintentional suggestion. This has been well documented and researched for decades at this point.

The fact that to this day not a single so called "PRL" has uncovered hitherto unknown, yet verifiable information (e.g. archaeological sites like sunken cities or translations of ancient scripts) points to suggestion (even if unintentional) rather than paranormal phenomena.

krzat 12/21/2025||

Yeah, from what I heard, that's how scientology recruits true believers.