I can't upgrade to Windows 11, now leave me alone

Posted by firefoxd 12/21/2025

I can't upgrade to Windows 11, now leave me alone(idiallo.com)

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Melatonic 12/21/2025|

Switch to Win10 LTSC iOT if you want to keep getting security updates for many years

Bonus is it strips out all the crap and is super fast

Downside is a few specific pieces of software refuse to install (for no good technical reason). Adobe Photoshop for example

There is also win11 LTSC iOT which I believe might actually install on older hardware that normal win11 will not (don't quote me on this)

manmal 12/22/2025||

Our kids‘ school received some old surface laptops for free through some initiative. I‘ve been tasked to take care of them. And of course, WiFi mysteriously stopped working for all of them, after ca 1 week of use.

It turns out that a recent Win11 update bricked the network adapter. After some digging, it is this problem: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4378104/...

I‘ve tried:

- Uninstalling the update and disabling updates for 5 weeks. But Windows just decided to reinstall the update after 2 days. Bricked again.

- Disabling fast start. This reactivated itself the next day.

- What finally worked, was disabling hibernation entirely.

garyfirestorm 12/21/2025||

And it’s not just TPM. I have tpm module however they don’t support my Intel 7700K processor.

dgoldstein0 12/22/2025|

yup. Fixed list of supported cpus. Well, I suppose it grows to include newer CPUs.

That said the rufus workaround can work for these - I'm writing this from a machine that's not a supported cpu that I just upgraded to Win 11 with rufus. Runs just fine. Fun fact about my cpu: no cpu with the same socket is supported, so to be officially supported I'd have to also upgrade the motherboard.

EmptyCoffeeCup 12/22/2025||

The "Yes or Maybe Later" dialogue boxes that festoon the internet & Windows 11 need to end - time for another law imo:

"No" must always be an option, and notices must not be shown again if this is selected.

YY3427394872 12/21/2025||

I wonder how hard would it be to just switch back to Windows 7 for these kinds of cases? Obviously the most ideal solution is to use Linux but there's still some edge cases where Windows is needed or is just preferred. If you install Windows 7 in a VM you'll be blown away by having a simple, clean OS that just runs applications and doesn't shove ads or Bing search into the start menu. And obviously it would be vulnerable to software exploits but if the device is mostly kept offline I can't see many issues with that coming up. Something to think about...

layer8 12/21/2025||

I know people who are still on Windows 7, but application support is becoming more difficult, including mainstream web browsers. You can still disable annoyances like in TFA on Windows 10, you just have to dig a bit.

born-jre 12/21/2025|||

I want to experiment with windows PE for that kind of use there used to be lite windows “distro” bashed on pe I used to love playing with

sylens 12/21/2025||

At a certain point you’ll lose application support, including from the major browsers and other services like Steam

j1elo 12/21/2025||

Adding to the enshittified pile of bad decissions that Windows has become, the actual requirements for Windows 11 are just a corporate caprice and not a real "requirement". I did whatever it needed to bypass the checks at install time, and W11 is now working exactly and equally as well as W10 was, on a laptop which only has TPM 1.2 and an old CPU.

Where is the requirement then in modern CPUs and TPM 2.0, Microsoft? Didn't you mean "nice to have" so additional but perfectly optional security features could be enabled?

cellular 12/22/2025|

I'm guessing they'll break it later by actually using said requirement.

Then say "i told you so!"

indubioprorubik 12/21/2025||

Microsoft making advertisements for https://store.steampowered.com/steamos ?

sam_goody 12/21/2025||

In Win 11 Home, and want to add a local account and not change it to a Windows account, and not share my stuff with MS. No Cloud or "Backups", thank you.

The option to enable a local account was through the command line only. The dark patterns and persausion to convince me not to was off putting.

But every time I boot in to have to go through the nag screen is off the wall.

It is truly crazy how much I understand the dedication people have to avoid using a unfamiliar system.

spencerflem 12/21/2025||

I love the phrase I heard recently: “software developers don’t understand consent”

It describes so much

kgklxksnrb 12/21/2025||

When I, as a developer, was told (essentially forced if I wanted to keep my job) to implement dark patterns, I did it knowing I made the world worse. I was fully aware of it, and my coworkers as well, we discussed it openly, and I imagine everyone implementing such tech are. Of course I and other could claim plausible deniability, ”we didn’t understand consent”.

Telaneo 12/22/2025||

I hope one day there will be pushback on this from people like you, but when your boss has an economical stranglehold over you, not to mention the old adage 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it', it's understandable why we're in this situation.

baal80spam 12/21/2025|||

Sales people don't understand it, not software developers.

canyp 12/21/2025|||

If you are a software developer and you implemented that without question, you suck.

Blackthorn 12/21/2025||||

Which one invented "ask me again later" dialogs?

mikestew 12/21/2025||

Sales people, and that shit rolled downhill to the devs. The days of devs writing dialog text in something like Windows are long gone.

hulitu 12/21/2025||||

See Windows and Android. Blaming only the sales people is ... not helping.

bigyabai 12/21/2025||

Blaming the sales people is correct. Technically-minded people likely do know better, they just lack the authority to override the top-down administrative decisions.

spencerflem 12/22/2025||

I’d like to think that but the AI ppl on this website are something else

heelix 12/21/2025||||

What is the difference between software and car sales? The car sales knows when they are lying.

ghostly_s 12/21/2025|||

These problems are rampant enough in the OSS world too, never heard of an open source salesman.

paradox460 12/21/2025||

Rms?

ThrowawayR2 12/21/2025|||

Software developers understand consent well but they understand dollar signs even better.

kotaKat 12/21/2025||

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stevenjgarner 12/21/2025|

Microsoft users are the product being sold

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