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Posted by egonschiele 12/22/2025

One year of keeping a tada list(www.ducktyped.org)
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edwardtay 12/28/2025|
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amelius 12/28/2025|
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AuthAuth 12/28/2025||
Ragebaiting tsk tsk You know that the watercolor painting is a gift to his friends and if made with AI it would be undermined to the worthlessness.
GabriDaFirenze 12/28/2025|||
I think I see where you're coming from but, from personal experience, AI has not much to do with one's interest in learning how to paint or draw. I've picked up drawing again this year not only as a passion but it's something I can create with my own hands. It doesn't matter that AI can do it and can do it much better, it's that I can do it. For fun, for relaxing, for meditating, ...
amelius 12/28/2025||
> For fun, for relaxing, for meditating, ...

Sure, but we're talking about a "tada list" here.

Would you write about relaxing and meditation on __your__ tada list?

s900mhz 12/28/2025|||
Why not? If one of your goals is to try to relax and/or meditate more, then I feel it’s a valid list entry.

It’s all a matter of perspective and personal goals, no?

amelius 12/28/2025||
Because if you read the conclusion, they say that having this list gives them more pressure.
nicbou 12/28/2025||
You have missed a good opportunity to be curious, rather than judgmental. Mind the HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sometimes, it takes some effort to get to the rewarding part of an activity. A little pressure is not bad when it's helping you reach your goals. Millions of people force themselves to go to the gym.

People enjoy making things with their hands. They love conveying their emotions and adding their flair. If the masters did not deter people from picking up a paintbrush, why would AI slop?

GabriDaFirenze 12/28/2025|||
In today's day and age I definitely would. That's my perspective though and we don't have to have the same expectations from the tada list.

"Today I meditated through drawing" is an accomplishment to me worth my personal tada list. Might not be for everyone though, I can understand that.

Someone else was making a good point that a daily tada list might be unnecessary pressure and a weekly one feels more balanced.

To add more color though, I personally would expect this to compound into an overall tada list similar to OP. At the end of the year I could amount to a lot of drawings and notice improvements over time. But again, AI has nothing to do with it.

If we give up on personal accomplishments because "AI can do it" we would go nowhere. But that's my 2c.

jebarker 12/28/2025|||
How does the existence of AI make watercolor painting less of a challenge for a human?
seba_dos1 12/28/2025|||
It obviously doesn't, as otherwise the existence of other humans that are more skilled than you would have the same effect.
amelius 12/28/2025|||
Would you call multiplying two 100-decimal numbers a challenge?

I wouldn't because I would just use libgmp or sympy. And I would certainly not write about it on my "tada list" (if I had one).

Anyway, that's how you should read that comment.

jebarker 12/28/2025|||
Multiplying two 100 digit numbers requires the application of a fixed algorithm which can be learned. If you don't know the algorithm it's challenging, if you do it's not.

But that is not true of painting. Painting requires choosing a subject (for its subjective qualities) and then translating what you _want_ to capture about that subject and how you want to represent it in paint on some medium. You will also be applying a theory of mind and perception about the audience of the painting since you probably want it to appeal to them. All of these choices and the skill to combine them into a painting that achieves what you want is vastly more challenging than multiplication.

Multiplication is akin to paint by numbers.

EDIT: it actually strikes me that this conversation gets to the crux of why AI art is so polarizing. It depends whether you view art predominantly as being about the thing that is created or the process of creation.

fastasucan 12/28/2025|||
>Would you call multiplying two 100-decimal numbers a challenge?

How is this analogous to painting?

amelius 12/29/2025||
AI made it so.
chairmansteve 12/29/2025|||
Like walking or cycling instead of driving?

We should get rid of the 100m sprint in the olympics because a car can do it faster?

And anyway, a water color in the original cannot be mistaken for a printed ai picture.

tayo42 12/28/2025|||
Ai can't do anything like a good water color painting. Also they're physical, like any painting, they look different in real life
plagiarist 12/28/2025|||
Could humanity keep some things for personal enjoyment and enrichment? As a treat?
bowsamic 12/28/2025||
Why is that impressive?