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Posted by johnathandos 2 days ago

Ask HN: What would you do if you didn't work in tech?

This question generated some very interesting discussions in another online community I’m in. I would likely pursue a career in occupational therapy or speech-language pathology. I would love to do work that directly benefits the lives of others and to spend more time interacting with people from all walks.
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throwaway673662 2 days ago|
I imagine my answer will be a bit unique - I'm in tech because I like computers and I'm good at working with them, but I feel a strong conviction that if I'd had my way, I would've gone into some sort of sex work, likely either porn or pro-domme work. There was an article posted here[0] a few years ago by an escort reflecting on her experiences, and the conclusion, which spoke to the human element of the work, deeply resonated with me - in fact, I recently left the IC track for a manager role because I'm realizing how meaningful I find work that exercises empathy to be.

Human sexuality is the one thing in this world that's more interesting to me than computers, and while I'm grateful for my stable job and career that allow me to explore it as a hobby, I'm infinitely curious about what that other life would have looked like.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28924751

kibbber 2 days ago|
We must repeal
01100011 2 days ago||
Many of us have to do this job(personality quirks, ASD, etc). I remember talking to a nerd friend(Verilog/VHDL guy) 25 years ago, in the time before Google salaries when engineering wasn't a job most people desired. He shared that thought and it rang true with me. I've met many folks who I don't think would have done well outside engineering. Myself, I have a good brain for engineering but have a marked lack of common sense. I'm a jack of all trades but as that implies I'm not particularly good at anything besides systems programming or electrical engineering.

Back in college('97) a guy offered me a job as an elevator repair tech. I almost dropped out since the money was better than what I'd make as an engineer($50/hr plus OT). My first engineering job, doing embedded SW and some EE work for a large consumer electronics company was $37.5k/yr.

freedomben 2 days ago||
> Myself, I have a good brain for engineering but have a marked lack of common sense.

I mean this sincerely, this is a geniuinely impressive level of self-awareness. If everybody was better at recognizing things like this, I think the world would be a much better place. Cheers

01100011 2 days ago||
I'm 50 so I have enough experience to have overcome any resistance to the idea that I am mostly a dumbass.

The majority of my larger life decisions have turned out poorly. Fortunately the ones that worked out paid off well enough to make up for the ones that didn't.

DANmode 1 day ago||
Have you considered outsourcing these decisions to a part or full-time executive assistant?
nine_k 2 days ago||
In 2025, these numbers would double: $100k as a repair tech (not bad), $75k as an engineer (hmm, what?).
beej71 2 days ago||
I'd do what I do now: computer science instructor and author. :)

My wife is an SLP at a hospital and she loves it. I couldn't handle the more medical parts, but I can see crossover there with assessment and problem-solving. She geeks out on it.

Both of us are definitely interested in work that benefits lives. (For me, a lot of that is driven by my desire to repent for working in online advertising for so many years.) If that's something that matters to you, and it sounds like it is, I definitely recommend pushing for that. But think outside the box, too--there are a lot of places in tech that benefit people and provide interaction.

Finally, watch out for the student loan-to-income ratio for things like SLP. Make sure you're balancing that.

johannfalkes 1 day ago|
SLP - Speech-Language Pathologist?
freedomben 2 days ago||
If money was no issue, I'd go into carpentry. I find building things out of wood to be immensely satisfying. Everything from the smell of the wood, the differences by wood type, the naturally beautiful look it has, and the usability/UX of the final product tickle me in ways that I haven't experienced before. I've gotten very close with personal software projects, but the physicality of the wood is something software has never been able to replicate.
piva00 2 days ago||
I was about to answer the same, I'd go to carpentry. I love being in the workshop, I love the pieces I made, I wish I had more time to properly finish some of them with all the details I had envisioned.

I've considered it a lot when I went through a big burnout, perhaps I should've just thrown away the 20+ years of career in tech at that moment to start as a journeyman since now it just became much harder to let go off the comforts this career brings me...

freedomben 2 days ago||
Oh man, we've got a lot of similarity there! I even took 2 weeks of PTO at one point when I was feeling massive burnout and spend that time in the shop building a table, chairs, benches, and a couple of attempts at mantles. Chairs were a lot harder than I initially thought (mostly making them comfortable to sit in), but the table and benches were easy enough I could crank out a table in a day and two or three benches the next day.

After that two weeks I even did some market research to see if there was any way to make a remotely comparable living off of it (unfortunately there wasn't, at least until the kids are out of the house and expenses go way down). I also realized that my style was not well aligned with popular styles at the time (this was 2019), and that shipping costs basically meant I could only sell to local area (and even then delivery cost/time would require adding too much margin).

Someday hopefully life will be more compatible with our dream :-)

organsnyder 2 days ago|||
I've now reframed a garage, built a woodshed, and built a utility shed. I'm planning to build a cabin in the next couple of years. Working with something physically tangible is immensely rewarding.
freedomben 2 days ago||
Indeed! I also found it let me indulge in a secondary passion of mine which is fuel efficiency. For example, when I'm building it myself I can make the walls ludicrously thick and insulated to the point where it stays a relatively moderate temp inside even without climate control. I built a shed to use as a luxury dog house, and it was tight enough that a single small space heater could keep it quite pleasant in the winter (when outside temps would be a low of around 12 deg F and high around 28 deg F).

Material costs were a little ridiculous, but since I'm only building for myself that wasn't a huge issue :-)

knowitnone3 2 days ago||
tight is not the goal - a home needs to breath
organsnyder 1 day ago||
This is accomplished in new builds with intentional ventilation. My above-garage ADU accomplishes this with a schedule on the bathroom fan and a make-up air intake in the utility closet. A more expensive (and more efficient) route would be to install an HRV or ERV.

As an energy consultant friend explained to me: You want to control the ventilation rate, rather than relying on whatever you get accidentally (which may not be enough, especially on calm days).

kristianp 2 days ago|||
There's an organisation in Australia called "the Men's Shed", that has workshops that people can go to to work on projects. It's more about combating loneliness though. https://mensshed.org/about-mens-sheds/what-is-a-mens-shed/
throw0101c 2 days ago|||
> If money was no issue, I'd go into carpentry.

I can see myself liking the process of construction:

* https://www.youtube.com/@PerkinsBuilderBrothers/videos

But I know it's hard on your body, and you have to do it regardless of weather, so I wouldn't enjoy those aspects as much (versus in a climate-controlled office / WFH).

kiliantics 2 days ago||
Same, specifically boat-building for me because it just draws me in.

But more generally, I would like to commit my time to making the built world more beautiful and sustainable. I despise the obsolescent plastic slop that we all are forced to use, wear, live in, and just see and be around all the time. I find it such a degradation in our society -- the shift in taste and values away from an appreciation of well-made, durable, and well-designed physical objects.

freedomben 2 days ago||
Neat, I really want to try building a boat! That does seem like it would be really fun. I started on a kayak once but didn't finish it and ended up cannabilizing many of the pieces for another project after a long-time kayaker friend of mine explained some of the big flaws in my design (I have a strong tendency to get creative with designs, for better or worse), and when I realized that my wood selection was highly suboptimal for something that would get heavily exposed to water. I really need to try again.

What type of wood would you recommend? Do you have any favorite designs you would recommend using as a starting point?

kiliantics 2 days ago||
Check out forum.woodenboat.com to read from a lot of amateurs taking on the project, just be warned that the rabbit hole is alluring and very deep.

It's typically not recommended to self-design, the physics gets technical and there are a lot of free working plans out there including by famous naval architects.

Most people start out with simpler designs using plywood and fiberglass but, due to my aforementioned disdain for a lot of modern approaches, I personally went with a traditional oak frame, cedar plank, copper rivet construction. It is very time consuming but I'm enjoying the journey. I chose a flat-bottomed sail boat design (dory) to make it a little easier on myself.

There are endless variations on the concept of a "wooden vessel that can be propelled through water" idea so it really depends on your interests and tastes. It's a "form follows function" situation too, so you also need to consider your use case -- engine, oar, sail; ocean, river, lake; etc.

mikewarot 7 hours ago||
I spent 5 years making gears, mostly bevel gears. If you see a Marvel 18" bandsaw made between 2015 and 2020, I probably cut the teeth on the band wheel and its pinion that drives it.

Some of the gears I helped make will still be in use in a century. I find great comfort in that for some reason. The job was rewarding, and interesting, but the pay and commute really sucked.

As for helping others, there were a handful of us in the job shop before it was bought by a bigger machine shop. It's a fairly solitary job.

S_Bear 2 days ago||
I'm not 'in tech', but I am a technology librarian and a large part of my job is teaching senior citizens how to use their devices. I don't make a ton of money, but I get a lot of social capital in my community, as well as a bunch of fresh baked goods this time of year.
lordkrandel 2 days ago||
Baker. Very phisical job, night hours, but it's creative and you really make something with your hands. Wonderful.
GenerWork 2 days ago||
Depending on my finances, I'd probably paint for a little bit. When I say paint, I mean paint buildings, not paint canvas or anything like that. Did this for a few years in college and it was satisfying to actually see physical proof of your work. Also, the only way you ever took you work home with you was if you got paint on yourself.
arealaccount 2 days ago|
While I probably wouldn't make a career out of it, I have the same feelings about painting. It's a satisfying zen and I love doing weekend painting projects on the house.
stared 2 days ago||
Do you mean "money is not an issue, what else would you do" or "AI has automated tech, what other job would you pick now" or "had you made different life choices 20 years ago..."?
mixmastamyk 2 days ago|
Former tech worker here. I don’t know yet, and don’t have many skills outside of computer jockey. Can be friendly for short periods but not a people person. What do y’all suggest?
jfil 2 days ago||
Handyman for the elderly
npodbielski 2 days ago||
I do not know... teach kids?
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