Posted by rbanffy 12/22/2025
Edit: Looks like they were a bit late to veto it here though.
Gold painted wind turbines. Art of the Deal!
It seems to me this is very much intentional to keep oil demand up and prices high.
If humans no longer use as much carbon (because they no longer exist in large numbers), doesn’t that alone adequately address the climate change concerns? Does it really make sense to overhaul the global energy generation infrastructure given these conditions?
That doesn't follow as the per capita consumption trends are still steadily increasing ... large numbers of people across the planet barely using any resources is far less of a problem than substantially fewer people all consuming like central north americans (which is increasingly the aspiration goal).
> doesn’t that alone adequately address the climate change concerns?
No.
The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is already problematic and will remain there for hundreds of years (unless removed).
The amount added each year by human activity is still increasing .. it needs to stop increasing, and to fall substantiatly, and probably something done about extraction or other mitigation.
> Does it really make sense to overhaul the global energy generation infrastructure
Yes .. and on the plus side that's already happening thanks to China, the EU, past US administrations, etc. THe current US administration isn't helping .. they appear to be doing very much the opposite of helping given the cosy relationship with existing fossil fuel companies.
compared to the general motor market in the USA? I think thats out by a few orders of magnitude.
Radar shadow is vaguely plausible, if your radar is shit and needs replacing.
it also requires your hydrophone network to not be working that well either.
So any source of electricity that may replace these wind turbines (other than solar) will require about the same amount of rare-earths. And lets face it, Trump is doing his best to hamstring solar as well. He has cancelled all solar subsidies and has hit solar with major tariffs.
I think Occams Razor would lead to a very different conclusion.
AFAIK, not all kinds of rotating generators require rare earths; IIRC, induction motors don't need any permanent magnets.
However... how on earth was this not identified like 10 years ago way before these projects were even started? Seems pretty obvious in hindsight.
One I would have believed more is that they're worried about being too reliable on the offshore wind which can be easily attacked by a foreign navy or maybe a smaller group.
China understands and is gunning for Nuclear and Solar. Geothermal and wind are nice but too location dependent.
People don’t mind solar as much.
Wind cannot compete on solar for price especially with China reducing solars base cost each year.
https://www.offshorewind.biz/2025/02/07/half-of-global-opera...
Who are we afraid of? If ICBMs are incoming to the Continental United States the world is ending. Regardless of whether we prevent wind farms in any of the 12,000+ miles of coastline.
Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico? People always bend over backwards to justify this administration. It's tiresome.
its up to discussion. US has many measures which combined could give them a chance to survive nuclear war, namely: preemptive strike by tridents on enemy's silos(https://thebulletin.org/2017/03/how-us-nuclear-force-moderni...) and anti missile defense.
> Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico?
there is a possibility of submarine launch from that direction.
This is the kind of thing you know years before construction is even funded, much less started.
This is a US administration being dishonest, whether for stupidity or to apply political pressure who knows.
It looks increasingly like a US vassal state for every year so that part wouldn't be so surprising.
Besides, the article you posted does not support your claim that Sweden blocked all offshore wind construction. On the contrary it refutes it by mentioning some greenlit offshore wind construction projects.
There are several other comments above that allege other countries have come to the same conclusion regarding offshore wind farms having a negative affect on radar.
Not much on details besides a “classified study“ but sounds pretty transparent to me?
This is delusional. The US has been spending metrics fucktons of money on national security since long before Trump.
Biden, like trump, was absolutely a war monger, as almost all US presidents are. He was a center neoliberal politician who love love LOVED the military industrial complex, and it shows in all of his policy choices.
This characterization of the modern American Democrats as communist hippies is just so out of touch with reality it's not even worth humoring. It's just wrong. You're wrong.
All other things equal, opening a literal breach in one of the white house's exterior wall seems like it would cause a "national security" issue if the construction project was not finished and the hole remained gaping afterwards.
Which is precisely why US defence agencies are heavily involved in the permitting and design of these wind farms from the start, to account for these valid issues.
I smell BS.