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Posted by Espressosaurus 3 hours ago

FCC Updates Covered List to Include Foreign UAS and UAS Critical Components [pdf](docs.fcc.gov)
56 points | 29 comments
Espressosaurus 3 hours ago|
"What does this mean?

• New devices on the Covered List, such as foreign-made drones, are prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the U.S. This update to the Covered List does not prohibit the import, sale, or use of any existing device models the FCC previously authorized.

• This action does not affect any previously-purchased drone. Consumers can continue to use any drone they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

Commentary: DJI has effectively been banned from operation in the US (unable to import anything with a transmitter, including most of their gimbals, mics, and other photography related equipment) They represent 70 to 80% of the US drone market. Probably closer to 100% for those that fly noncommercially. Autel, the other large manufacturer, is also banned.

givemeethekeys 1 minute ago||
Does that mean that DJI can continue to sell models that they've already been selling in the US?
neuronexmachina 1 hour ago|||
If I understand correctly, this doesn't ban the import/sale of drone models which the FCC previously approved. That said, in October 2025 the FCC granted itself the authority to retroactively revoke previously-approved models, so this is something they could still potentially do.
guerrilla 2 hours ago|||
So, America just shot itself in the foot again. It's starting to look like a pattern.
j16sdiz 45 minutes ago||
Well.. DJI have on-the-fly no fly zone update, and newer model can communicate via satellite.

That's worse if you believe there are possibility of war...

vasco 3 minutes ago||
Attack vector: drone needs to get out of a case, backpack or closet, out of the window and fly somewhere to do something.

Meanwhile IoT devices, internet connected kitchen appliances just need to be able to be remotely activated to create a power surge and overwhelm the electric grid. Those can be sold no problem.

bambax 32 minutes ago|||
If drones are a threat to national security, then all existing drones should be grounded, regardless of the manufacturer. Or, if Chinese drones are the threat, then all existing Chinese-made drones should be grounded?

I don't understand how banning future drones helps national security in any way.

sandworm101 11 minutes ago|||
>> banning future drones

It is about money. If they ban drones that are already inside the US, they risk lawsuits by drone owners/importers for expropriation of their property. Banning things that are not already inside the country is easier as nobody has an absolute right to import stuff.

It is akin to weapons bans. Banning future sales of machine guns is far far easier to implement than outlawing those already sitting in gun cabinets across the country. The former is free to implement, the later very expensive.

kortilla 27 minutes ago|||
Well this would be step one to try to motivate some US company to start manufacturing. Then once it ramps up they can step in with banning existing stuff without causing too much disruption.
b00ty4breakfast 1 hour ago|||
I want to believe this is some ploy to open the market for some US manufacturer that slipped a few thousand dollars in an envelope but I have a sneaking suspicion that nobody is coming to fill the void left by this naive protectionism. (Or is it deliberate sabotage? I don't even know anymore)
Espressosaurus 1 hour ago|||
If it was phased in and didn't specifically include allied country imports, I could believe that.

This door-slamming-shut-suddenly method says there is no plan, and given we don't domestically make most of the critical components ourselves, at best it's going to take awhile to build the factories and expertise to make up for the loss of the biggest suppliers in the market.

We'll get to pay much higher prices for much worse products while we do so.

Just looking at what's available for enterprise use (since there is no consumer-selling US drone company at this point) it looks like US companies are around a decade behind.

neuronexmachina 51 minutes ago|||
It's crazy that it also bans new models from Europe's Wingtra, Quantum Systems, and AgEagle, which are basically the only consumer fixed-wing drones available. Heck, those companies were even previously approved for the DOD's "Blue UAS" list: https://bluelist.appsplatformportals.us/Cleared-List/
MrMorden 36 minutes ago|||
The primary goal of the Trump administration is to destroy American manufacturing. They don't want factories, hence all the tariffs.
hn_throwaway_99 38 minutes ago|||
> some US manufacturer that slipped a few thousand dollars

As if they even need to do it surreptitiously. They'd just announce it in the Oval Office with a giant gold plaque for Trump, a few million bucks for the ballroom, and agree that government purchases can be made in Trumpcoin.

cyberax 2 hours ago||
Wow. The text of the determination is just unhinged completely: https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/National-Security-De...

> Federal planning for the 2026 FIFA World Cup and 2028 Olympics already assumes that UAS will be a central threat vector. CISA’s soft‑target and UAS guidance notes that crowded venues, transportation nodes, and public‑gathering areas are particularly vulnerable to hostile drone activity.9 Recent congressional hearings on mass‑gathering security have emphasized that UAS are now a routine part of incident planning, alongside more traditional threats.10 The Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of War are already investing heavily in detection, tracking, and mitigation capabilities with these specific events in mind.11 UAS are also playing a critical enabling role on the battlefield in many modern conflicts. In Ukraine and Israel-Gaza, low-cost commercial UAS inflict extensive damage and have caused significant loss of life.12 Drug Cartels are also reportedly using foreign-produced UAS to smuggle drugs into the United States and carry out attacks.

I'm sure, the ban on DJI devices will stop fentanyl and terrorists.

jaybirdio 1 hour ago||
As long as there are no favored companies, I'm sure fair competition will ensure that the US regains its edge (and the Olympics will remain safe)

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/drone-company...

oefrha 1 hour ago|
What and how much do I need to pay to add Don Jr. to my company’s board? $10MM converted to TRUMP? $100MM?
Animats 2 minutes ago||
Despite the amount of sucking up to Trump in the press release, this is not totally stupid. DJI drones do have a data path back to China. Several years ago, the US military, which used to use some DJI drones, decided that the risk was too high. There was an order (in 2022?) to cease using DJI drones and to store them with the batteries removed.

On the other hand, Donald Trump Jr. recently acquired an interest in a US drone company, which is selling drone motors to the US military for what seems a high price.

bduhan 1 hour ago||
There is no viable alternative to DJI’s Enterprise offerings. I get that we are trying to bolster domestic tech but this is a stick when it should be a carrot.
conception 1 hour ago||
Is that what we are trying to do? Does that seem like the most likely plan being executed here?
roamerz 49 minutes ago|||
Won’t DJI’s current offerings still be available? I bought a Phantom 4 Pro 5 years ago that I use for mapping and it still does the job. I would expect that Enterprise drones would work the same way. Sure we’re not going to get the next new better faster model so in that scenario it does give time for a domestic company to engineer an offering.
palmotea 25 minutes ago||
> I get that we are trying to bolster domestic tech but this is a stick when it should be a carrot.

It's not either-or, it should be both.

tzs 1 hour ago||
> In their determination, national security agencies referenced, among other things, concerns that that foreign-made UAS could be used for attacks and disruptions, unauthorized surveillance, sensitive data exfiltration, and other UAS threats to the homeland.

So people planning attacks and disruptions and unauthorized surveillance will have to buy drones made in the USA?

altairprime 1 hour ago||
No: the threat model as stated is referring to, in restated terms, “China could silently occupy DJI headquarters and control US-deployed DJI drones into quasi-military strikes using firmware updates, remote controls, or other such mechanisms.” Same theory as Huawei 5G routers could be remotely wiretapped in various ways, etc.

(It’s important to distinguish it from the “buy drone-as-weapon at US retail, use drone inside US” threat model, but beyond telling them apart, I have no position prepared on the relevance of either model.)

05 27 minutes ago|||
Because drones without explosives strapped to them are so effective.. not to mention they spend 99.9% of the time in storage with battery disconnected, so easy to make a bunch of them attack at the same time (because once people know the drones are malicious it’s game over for the attackers).

pure idiocy.

lazide 56 minutes ago|||
With the way DJI drone updates are deployed, that isn’t actually that far fetched, technically. Assuming the targeted event was known in advance in time/space.

It would likely be an obvious act of war, but technically it wouldn’t be that hard to pull off.

bambax 31 minutes ago||
No, they can buy previously authorized DJI drones, or used ones on eBay, no problem.
masonhensley 1 hour ago||
I've been in the bowels of the domestic robot/drone parts supply chain. It's ugly, almost non-existent. I wish there was more of a carrot, but the opportunity for that was frankly 5 years ago.

NDAA has been a saving grace that we have anything like https://arkelectron.com/

Frankly, they should just rip the bandaid off and apply it to robotics like robovacs/delivery bots/etc scanning homes/offices/critical infrastructure at this point.

jmward01 1 hour ago|
Why would anyone build manufacturing to fill a void like this knowing how arbitrary US policy is? One day you are a supplier, the next you are out of business. Long term, telegraphed, intelligent, policy shift is the way to encourage and build a domestic industry, this just makes it hard for us to have nice things.