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Posted by zdw 12/28/2025

Software engineers should be a little bit cynical(www.seangoedecke.com)
300 points | 208 commentspage 4
fennecbutt 12/29/2025|
I have always worked this way professionally. But unfortunately it often bleeds over into real life; it's so hard to see the good in things. :(
skeptrune 12/28/2025||
We're all just trying to do a good job. I think it's very rare for someone to be earnestly malicious attempting to block the company from doing well.
KolibriFly 12/29/2025||
A lot of "anti-cynical" takes are actually built on a deeply cynical view of how change happens
roschdal 12/29/2025||
Tech companies have become pure evil
29athrowaway 12/28/2025||
> "you should do things that make your manager happy"

If doing things ethically (not defrauding investors and customers) keeps your manager happy, then do it. If not, do it fucking anyways.

tamimio 12/28/2025||
>cynical: concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted standards in order to achieve them

Indeed you are, for calling software developers “engineers” meanwhile software development is actually writing, so they are more closer to writers than engineers.

mettamage 12/28/2025||
I disagree with your view. It’s the thinking needed that makes it engineering, especially when you have a lot of constraints (massive scale, low latency, etc.).

Consider this: math is mostly doodling some glyphs on paper, so clearly it is closer to drawing than engineering.

s5300 12/29/2025|||
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bdangubic 12/28/2025|||
> especially when you have a lot of constraints (massive scale, low latency, etc.)

there are roughly 0.082% of software "engineers" that deal with these constraints or have to "think about them"

chasd00 12/28/2025||
To be fair most actual engineers just copy paste from a previous project (MEP engineers in architecture) or just look up numbers or equipment in a table (every structural engineer I’ve known). A vanishingly small percentage of any engineer (software or otherwise) are actually doing what most people think as “engineering”.
bdangubic 12/28/2025||
this type of comment will get you downvoted here faaaast… ;) bunch of “engineers” here engineering and shit
wiseowise 12/28/2025||
Do you also say this shit in real life?
mos87 12/29/2025||
In 2026 everyone could do worse than become a little bit more cynical
jasonm23 1/2/2026||
more than we already are?!
nacozarina 1/2/2026|
is the cynicism of saying we’re not cynical enough, not enough?
crawfordcomeaux 12/29/2025||
Any analysis of corporations without contextualizing them within systems generating/maintaining genocides is going to be too reductive to be about the real world, like most economic models. The result will always be too idealistic & artificially limiting the scope of potentially meaningful work (as well as the creativity needed to move past such limits).

Passively contributing to genocide is still contributing to genocide. Complicity/apathy toward genocide is still contributing to genocide.

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