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Posted by iancmceachern 1/1/2026

Sergey Brin's Unretirement(www.inc.com)
See also: https://www.businessinsider.com/sergey-brin-says-leaving-goo...

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phtrivier 3 days ago|
Considerations of a poor billionaire being bored apart - why is it that we still consider work and retirements as "black or white" things ? It might have made sense for physically exhaustive works, but for anything intellectual, wouldn't "progressive retirement" make much more sense ? As in, starting a certain age, provided you're physically and mentally able, of course, you get to work 80% of your time (in civilized countries where retirement is payed by states from taxes, you would get "about" 20% of your pension, but your employer would keep paying taxes), then 50%, then 25%, then 0 ? Would that be easier to finance given life expectancy increase (barring WW3, of course) ?
leonhard 3 days ago||
This basically exists in Austria as “Altersteilzeit” [0] (“old age part time”). You even get 50% of your loss of income back through social security. So e.g. when reducing work by 40% you still get 80% of your salary. I’m guessing this is to incentivise employers to keep people near retirement employed as it would be much more expensive for the state to finance them if they were unemployed.

[0] https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/de/themen/arbeit_beruf_und_pen... (only in German unfortunately)

jll29 3 days ago|||
Medically speaking, your proposal would perhaps prevent a lot of heart attack deaths. It has been shown that not working is not just unpleasant, it's a strong stressor [1,2].

[1] https://academic.oup.com/geronj/article-abstract/46/1/P9/638...

[2] https://www.econstor.eu/handle/10419/234818

TacticalCoder 3 days ago|||
> ... wouldn't "progressive retirement" make much more sense ?

Of course it does. I've seen it in my parents' generation: many wanted to reach retirement do "do nothing" and, well, they just lost their marbles. Doing nothing is neither good for the body, nor for the mind. Endless TV watching or endless pina colada drinking in the pool (or both at the same time): idleness brings absolutely nothing good.

But my parents' friends who kept working a bit (like my godmother who kept supervising her real estate agency): she stayed sharp and fit.

People think they're going to read and do exercice etc. but truth is: most are going to do jack absolutely shit. And turn to the latter.

So keeping partially active is the best thing possible.

I see it with my mother-in-law: 70 y/o, still working, daily, with my wife (they own a little SME). It keeps her in the loop: she still knows how to use a computer, her mind is quick. She's not idling.

The financial aspect of it all is something else: but people doing nothing is not what a society needs.

lionkor 3 days ago||
*centibillionaire, above Mark Zuckerberg in the list :)
rokhayakebe 4 days ago||
Humans spent thousands of years living in small groups where everyone had to be useful. When all of sudden you stop working and sit in your corner, you are doing something that run against thousands of years of evolution.
InMice 4 days ago|
I scrolled this whole thread curious if someone would make this simple observation. We did not survive and evolve for millions of years to be born and then do nothing, to not meet needs and have needs met. Historical precedent, tamper with carefully.

I am partial fire and I feel that line of demarcation personally. I've also watched it play out in others like clockwork. As wealth grows, new responsibilities emerge.

throwpoaster 3 days ago||
Grandfather in village still farms at 90+.

Retirement is a scam. Figure out what you want to do and do it until you drop.

nsoonhui 4 days ago||
When I started my company, we suddenly found that we were in a good small fortune, not enough to be millionaires or billionaires, but enough to get people to run the business semi automatically with very minimum input from the founders.

I took a semi retirement approach to the business, there really wasn't a lot of things to do, my role was sort of just "managing" programmers. I got so much free time that I could even start a second business on the side.

Despite my best ability to stretch my work, I couldn't even fill up half of my working hours. One would have thought that this is heaven. But the time I was most free was also the time I was most miserable. I wasn't happy, I was gaining weight, I was perennially asking myself why the business couldn't be bigger and I couldn't sell it, so that I can be real millionaires and billionaires with financial freedom!

Then fate intervened, the sudden fortune disappeared and I no longer had the luxury of just "managing people"; I have to do hands-on. And it was this activity, the feeling that I was contributing to something, that I was writing code again and actually building stuffs, that made me happy again.

Today we are bigger than what we once we were, but still, I am writing code and pretty much hands-on.I vow that I will never retire, even though if I could. Because it's the meaningful work that sustains life and provides happiness. Being able to work on it is a luxury that I will never want to give up, ever.

readthenotes1 4 days ago||
"Because it's the meaningful work that sustains life and provides happiness."

For you.

For me, it is having the time to do what I wish. Currently helping a friend with recovery after a major surgery. Next month, who knows?

No, it's not at all the same as "meaningful work".

At least in part, I do not need the attaboys or regular 'sense of accomplishment' that one get from plate-spinning or other meaningful work.

chuliomartinez 4 days ago||
You agree more than you disagree. Meaningful might be something else for you. But I bet deep down it is doing something for others (clients, coworkers, friends, family, even strangers) that gives meaning.
Palomides 4 days ago||
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dang 4 days ago||
Please don't cross into personal attack in HN comments. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ocdtrekkie 3 days ago||
Reminder: Sergey Brin is a creep who believes in hiring women so he can sleep with them.

The fact he's allowed back inside Google means Google still has a massively unresolved workplace sexual harassment issue.

Spooky23 4 days ago||
It’s easy to eye roll at billionaire guy wanting to go work, but it’s a real thing, I recall my dad struggling with retirement, after having planned so long.

He did a bit of consulting, was a rural mail carrier for a year and ended up managing a county program for a few years. He also discovered teaching as an adjunct professor, which he loved deeply. At some point, he was ready, and he had several good years of retirement with grandchildren and travel.

With a story like this, I choose to see what we have in common with a very successful, very rich person. Many people think “If only I had a more, everything would be grand.”

Well… Brin is a billionaire controlling one of the most powerful corporations on the earth. He found meaning in his work, or chose his work because of the meaning to him. Either way, given the ability to do anything, he made his choice. Don’t worship the guy, but perhaps see the humanity that we all share.

lillecarl 4 days ago||
Mitchell Hashimoto went on to create a new awesome terminal emulator, in a programming language he had not used (much) before. Sounds like a great way to stay entertained!
fragmede 4 days ago||
That, and flying fighter jets for fun.
fragmede 4 days ago||
[dupe]
jaden 4 days ago||
It's interesting to hear about his experience, but I'm not sure if it's typical. There are millions of people retiring each year, presumably many are happy to be done with the drudgery of work and excited to spend time on hobbies and projects they enjoy.

I'm curious to know how many retirees end up like Sergey and how many you don't hear about because they're too busy enjoying their retirement.

snowwrestler 4 days ago|
I will say that this topic is a common one among people talking about FIRE “financial independence, retire early” — folks who are saving as fast as they can so they can quit working. There are a lot of people who already got there who come back to warn people they won’t necessarily be happy and fulfilled just because they quit the day job. Like, that’s an amazing feeling at first but it probably won’t carry you for 30-50 more years.

The article actually includes some of these examples, but I get the feeling that a lot of readers did not make it past the Brin part.

jandrewrogers 4 days ago||
It works much better for most people if you replace “retire early” with “recreationally employed”. You can select the work you do without optimizing for income or status-maxxing.
piva00 3 days ago||
The few cases I know of people who retired in their early 30s they really didn't want to even be "recreationally employed", they diverted their efforts to causes they believe are bigger than usual work. They help communities, they started projects in their free time that enhances others' lives in direct and meaningful ways which had nothing to do with their past day job.

I believe I'd do the same, forget about coding yet another little project/library, and go into the real world dedicate part of my time to causes that can't pay much but have meaning to others.

jandrewrogers 3 days ago||
This is entirely within the scope of "recreationally employed". There is no implication that what you spend your time on has anything to do with your former career.

In most cases I know of recreational employment has little to do with their former employment. They often put in a lot of hours and it is still "work" in the ordinary sense but it is entirely self-directed.

piva00 3 days ago||
I believe it's a misuse of "employment" then, I do not understand employment as something you do without payment, to me it is necessarily related to paid labour.
jandrewrogers 3 days ago||
If you obligate yourself to significant and consistent labor when no such thing is necessitated by your life then you are effectively "employed". You have to show up. Absent external motivation, like feeding your family or staying out of prison, it is purely a lifestyle choice. It is the opposite of playing video games all day or sitting at the beach.

The FIRE types are not working to survive by definition, allowing them to work at non-profits for a pittance, run a farm with no meaningful market, do thankless maintenance on FOSS, or travel around the world saving the whales. The lack of a meaningful paycheck doesn't make these things not "jobs" for all practical purposes.

p1esk 4 days ago||
Financial freedom is about not having to worry about losing your job, or tolerating shitty work conditions. Why would you retire if you do what you love? I think the real problem might be if there's nothing you actually love doing (long term), that's when money won't help.
canpan 4 days ago||
The people with the drive to be able to retire early are also the most likely to be bored when it happens.

Working on something fun and novel, like in his case Gemini, mentioned in the article, is the ideal.

dyauspitr 4 days ago||
What do you mean? Money is the best thing to have if you’re lazy and don’t like doing anything.

In this case I agree though, he’s the boss, not beholden to anyone. Can wander around and do what interests him.

p1esk 4 days ago||
But that's the problem - if you don't like doing anything, what will you do? What will you fill your life with? You will quickly get bored of anything you try. Your life will have no meaning, and you will probably turn to alcohol or drugs.
mockingbirdy 4 days ago|||
Had this exact situation. Turned to drugs. Lived like a GTA character. That’s unsustainable, similar to luxury vacations which turn dull. Now I‘m finding investors for curing MS with a team of researchers who‘ve built sth that is more accurate than CRISPR to cure my sister. I actually want to get in contact with Sergey Brin about that because we might have something interesting for him - but my American contacts are only connected to Musk and people like a Polygon founder and music/hollywood people. This is not a psychotic or exaggerated message, I‘m sure HN can vet us (@dang) and get us contacts, currently I‘m talking to family offices in Saudi Arabia. About meaning: if you get bored, aim for bigger positive impact.

paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29857928/

short: We have a rigorously validated antigen-specific immune tolerance platform with bystander suppression, NIH/MS Society backing and a clear translational gap.

dyauspitr 4 days ago||||
Everyone, even the laziest person likes doing something even if that’s just parking yourself in front of the TV and stuffing your face.

Most people though genuinely like activities that most times would be impossible to monetize enough to make a living, which isn’t a problem if you’re rich. Alternatively, there are plenty of things people want to do that they have no intention of being the best at, they want to dabble.

vbezhenar 4 days ago|||
I can play World of Warcraft indefinitely.
oreally 4 days ago||
Indeed, video games are probably the things most of humanity will retire to if they didn't attach so much ego and meaning to their jobs and by extension, the people around them.

Just be sure to swap games once in a while so you don't get bored.

jraedisch 3 days ago|
I would like to read more about Larry Page, too.
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